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  • The Big Dunn
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    #31
    Question: Didn't ODH demand the catcthweight for the BHOp fight? If so, can't blame Bernard for that.

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      #32
      Originally posted by oc9979
      Was Pavlik vs Hopkins at catchweight?
      Was Tito vs Jones Jr at catchweight?
      Tito vs Mayorga.

      De La Hoya vs Pacquiao was at a catchweight because Pacquiao moved up and De La Hoya moved down so the could fight.

      Jones vs Ruiz was not at catchweight because Ruiz did not moved down. Jones moved up.


      Oscar fought about 9 times at 154.
      Sturm, Hopkins, Forbes, Mayweather, Mayorga, Vargas, Campas, Castillejo, and Mosley.
      Forbes was at 150, Sturm and B-Hop(catchweight) were above 154.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        Question: Didn't ODH demand the catcthweight for the BHOp fight? If so, can't blame Bernard for that.
        But, he still participated in a catch-weight fight that he won, no?

        I mean demanding catch-weights does not make you the king, if you lose all of them.

        You have to win to be the king of something.

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          #34
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          But, he still participated in a catch-weight fight that he won, no?

          I mean demanding catch-weights does not make you the king, if you lose all of them.

          You have to win to be the king of something.
          I think we both know what the intent of this thread is. WHo uses their power to negotiate catchweights the most.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            I think we both know what the intent of this thread is. WHo uses their power to negotiate catchweights the most.
            I thought the point was who's the catch-weight king.

            I mean if we going by who uses their power to negotiate what weight-class they fight in.

            Then by all means hands down Oscar De la Hoya is the king. With SRL not far behind.

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              #36
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              I thought the point was who's the catch-weight king.

              I mean if we going by who uses their power to negotiate what weight-class they fight in.

              Then by all means hands down Oscar De la Hoya is the king. With SRL not far behind.
              I'm thinking the TS wasn't talking about retired fighters. My guess is this was aimed at Manny.But i'm sure you know this.

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              • oc9979
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                #37
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Forbes was at 150, Sturm and B-Hop(catchweight) were above 154.
                My point is that De La Hoya at 154 and above most oh his last fight, except Forbes and Pacquiao.

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                  #38
                  Its good for the sport when a fight that "MUST HAPPEN" and can't otherwise happens...

                  However if u have the ability to weigh within 147 weight limit, whether its 146 or 140, u shouldn't force someone from that weight class to drop weight. Pacquiao weighed in at over 140 against De La Hoya, there was no need to make Cotto fight at a catchweight at all. Although Pacquiao vs Margarito made sense at a catchweight, the fight itself didn't "HAVE TO HAPPEN".

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                    #39
                    That coward name Emmanuel.

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