Who is the greater fighter before 25, Pac or Floyd? after 25?

[ModernTalking]

Floyd at 25

2 division champion and 2 time lineal champion,undefeated..wins over

1-hernendez
2-corrales
3-castillo

top 3 p4p

Pacquiao beating Barerra > Floyd before and after 25

[straightleft]

Floyd.Manny was ko'd 2 times by journeymen and beat by Morales.Floyd was top p4p then and undefeated

Great fighters proved themselves how to come back strong from his losses. Undefeated is overrated kinda his competition are not strong enough or he avoided carefully those who might beat him.

[puga]

pac....barrera alone ****s on everything floyd has done in his entire carreer..

also, 3 div champ>>>>2 div champ

[Barry Halls]

Great fighters proved themselves how to come back strong from his losses. Undefeated is overrated kinda his competition are not strong enough or he avoided carefully those who might beat him.

who do you feel floyd avoided before the age of 25?

[STRUGG]

floyd was a great fighter before 25........................but then he decided she wanted to e a b1tch..............................smh

[straightleft]

sasakul was for the lineal championship? I didn't know that.

if you include the 25th year it could be fairly close.

Then floyd had 1 lineal championship, 2 divisional titles, olympic bronze that should have been a silver/gold, and wins over Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales and 2x JLC.
please correct me if im wrong, I'm really tired.

Amateur record not included.

as pro Pacquiao below 25
WBC champ at the age of 19
3 divisions champ (Sasakul 112, Ledwaba 122, Barrera 126)
2 lineal champ (Sasakul, Barrera)

Pacquiao above 25
5 divisions champ
2 lineal champ
Fighter of the Decade
P4P #1

as pro Floyd below 25
1 division champ (Hernandez 130)

Floyd above 25
Floyd was already 25 when he fought Castillo.
4 divisions champ (Castillo 135, Gatti 140, Baldomir 147, Oscar 154)
P4P #1
2 lineal champ

Pacquiao all the way!

[straightleft]

who do you feel floyd avoided before the age of 25?

He fought everyone but not enough to topple Pacquiao records below 25.

Amateur record not included.

as pro Pacquiao below 25
WBC champ at the age of 19
3 divisions champ (Sasakul 112, Ledwaba 122, Barrera 126)
2 lineal champ (Sasakul, Barrera)

Pacquiao above 25
5 divisions champ
2 lineal champ
Fighter of the Decade
P4P #1

as pro Floyd below 25
1 division champ (Hernandez 130)

Floyd above 25
Floyd was already 25 when he fought Castillo.
4 divisions champ (Castillo 135, Gatti 140, Baldomir 147, Oscar 154)
P4P #1
2 lineal champ



Pacquiao all the way!

[bojangles1987]

Floyd was obviously the better fighter, but Pacquiao did quite a bit, though with more years to do it. It's actually a legit question you can have separate opinions on.

[The Big Dunn]

He fought everyone but not enough to topple Pacquiao records below 25.

Amateur record not included.

as pro Pacquiao below 25
WBC champ at the age of 19
3 divisions champ (Sasakul 112, Ledwaba 122, Barrera 126)
2 lineal champ (Sasakul, Barrera)

Pacquiao above 25
5 divisions champ
2 lineal champ
Fighter of the Decade
P4P #1

as pro Floyd below 25
1 division champ (Hernandez 130)

Floyd above 25
Floyd was already 25 when he fought Castillo.
4 divisions champ (Castillo 135, Gatti 140, Baldomir 147, Oscar 154)
P4P #1
2 lineal champ



Pacquiao all the way!

everything the fighters did in the ring has to be weighed, not just the wins. How is it possible that a fighter who lost twice performed better than a fighter who didn't? We can't discount Pac's losses to low caliber fighters. Shouldn't the surprise win against Ledwaba is negated by the loss to lower caliber fighters?

Taking EVERYTHING into consideration, it has to be Floyd. Of course I am a floyd fan but I think I am being reasonable.

[bojangles1987]

everything the fighters did in the ring has to be weighed, not just the wins. How is it possible that a fighter who lost twice performed better than a fighter who didn't? We can't discount Pac's losses to low caliber fighters. Shouldn't the surprise win against Ledwaba is negated by the loss to lower caliber fighters?

Taking EVERYTHING into consideration, it has to be Floyd. Of course I am a floyd fan but I think I am being reasonable.

How would a win be negated by a loss? Fighters lose. All the time. Pacquiao coming back to beat Ledwaba shows he has improved. You're not taking everything into consideration by holding those knockout losses against Pacquiao so badly, because he was a malnourished teenager for both.

It's also very easy for a fighter who has lost to perform better than a fighter who didn't. It's called competition. I'm not saying Pacquiao fought better competition than Floyd, I'm just saying in general, holding the undefeated record at that point in Floyd's career is pointless.