Dana WHITE: "Bob ARUM Is A Jealous Moron!...A Greedy Pig!"

[Gino Ros]

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/art...oxing_ring.asp

Please watch this video first. I think Mark Taffet has a much better idea on this than you do.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/8/22...udience-debate

You are taking quotes from people with AN INTEREST in distorting the numbers.

If you take the boxing demographics from a marketing analysis firm, and then put it side-by-side with MMA demos, you will see HUGE overlap.

And now I notice that you are saying there IS overlap when just a few posts ago you said the groups were mutually exclusive.

[fathergll]

Last 4 UFC PPV's have hovered around 300k... That's nothing to brag about.

But it is something to brag about. The UFC is able to STILL get around 300,000 buys even without big cards. The UFC is still banking money with 300,000 ppv buys.

HBO would kill to be able to get 300,000 buys on a consistent basis. Anyone remember what Calzaghe-Jones did even with a 24/7 to hype it up? 225,000 buys. What about the Kelly Pavlik-Bernard Hopkins fight the HBO was hoping to get 300,000 buys? It did 190,000 buys. Believe me 300,000 buys on a consistent basis is excellent.

The last PPV had the most injuries to a card in UFC history and did 310,000 buys. How is that not impressive?



Just wait until the PPV numbers come out from here on out. All the big UFC titles will be defended in the next few months. Tonight is MW title Silva vs. Okami/Shogun vs Griffin, then LHW title Jones vs. Rampage, then 170 title St-Pierre vs. Diaz, then HW title Velasquez vs. Dos Santos....

[BoxingFollower]

Last 4 UFC PPV's have hovered around 300k... That's nothing to brag about.

Exactly, seeing that a fake scripted sport like Wwe has been outdoing them lately. Btw has Ufc ever even been in a staduim?? I know they do arenas.

[Gino Ros]

Exactly, seeing that a fake scripted sport like Wwe has been outdoing them lately. Btw has Ufc ever even been in a staduim?? I know they do arenas.

Other than the very top boxers, what do boxing ppv's do?

What did the Barrera-Marquez trilogy do?
Or Pac-Morales?


People get spoiled by the 1x/2x a year million dollar PPV's

[Gino Ros]

But it is something to brag about. The UFC is able to STILL get around 300,000 buys even without big cards. The UFC is still banking money with 300,000 ppv buys.

HBO would kill to be able to get 300,000 buys on a consistent basis. Anyone remember what Calzaghe-Jones did even with a 24/7 to hype it up? 225,000 buys. What about the Kelly Pavlik-Bernard Hopkins fight the HBO was hoping to get 300,000 buys? It did 190,000 buys. Believe me 300,000 buys on a consistent basis is excellent.

The last PPV had the most injuries to a card in UFC history and did 310,000 buys. How is that not impressive?



Just wait until the PPV numbers come out from here on out. All the big UFC titles will be defended in the next few months. Tonight is MW title Silva vs. Okami/Shogun vs Griffin, then LHW title Jones vs. Rampage, then 170 title St-Pierre vs. Diaz, then HW title Velasquez vs. Dos Santos....

Somebody PLEASE green K this man.

[SkillspayBills]

I **** with Dana because he keeps it real but if he doesn't think he is a greedy ****er who doesn't short change his fighters he is kidding me. Mothafreaking Victor Ortiz made more money fighting Berto than alot of UFC fighters make in 1 year.

[Gino Ros]

I **** with Dana because he keeps it real but if he doesn't think he is a greedy ****er who doesn't short change his fighters he is kidding me. Mothafreaking Victor Ortiz made more money fighting Berto than alot of UFC fighters make in 1 year.

Here's the difference:

UFC cares about the show that it gives the fans. Because the money is coming from THE FANS.

Boxing promoters don't care about the show, or the fans. Because the money is coming from THE NETWORK.

Take Amir Khan's last big fight in Vegas. He made 2x as much in his purse as he brought in at the gate.

Remove Mayweather and pacquiao from the equation...THEN compare how boxing and MMA are doing.

[Fighting Pride]

I believe that this sums it up pretty well on the worldwide level. Boxing is an ocean while mma is a bath. Someone posted that on here and I believe that really does tell the story. Internationally look at how many more boxers/boxing shows there are than mma fighters/shows. It is not even close.

Boxing's problem is it is all independent contractors trying to work out deals together. But in my eyes that is a very slim problem to the ufc which is a dictatorship and every dictatorship in the history of mankind has failed. Both sports have the problem of not having a union for retired fighters. Boxers make a much much better % of the revenue than mma fighters and this will become a major factor in the future of that sport you may start seeing a lot less stacked cards because bj penn does not want to fight for 65k anymore.

^^^^
This.

Dana White and the Fertitas take home alot larger slice of the money from their PPV events than Arum does from his PPV events. They do consistently good numbers, yet have they ever paid any one of their fighters 25 million dollars for a fight? Have they paid any one of their fighters 3 million even? Their contract structure is set up so they can kick fighters out of the UFC if they lose a fight or two, because it harms their market potential. Basically slave contracts. The UFC is only concerned with their profit margin. They buy out and kill their competition like they did Pride, and will soon do to Strikeforce. If Arum's a greedy pig, they're the fattest ****ing pigs on the farm.

[Drunk Punch]

I hate it when UFC and boxing are pitched as rivals. I like both, they are apples and oranges so I don't know why people seem determined to compare them.

[deanrw]

Both of them are tyrants. Both of them, especially White, of turning their sport into a particular brand name, although Arum still tries damnit!!

Both of them are truly only in it for themselves, both sports are and will suffer more because of it eventually.