MistakeMISTAKE EVERYONE MAKES FIGHTING VITALI KLITSCHKO

[The Gambler1981]

again... you fail to get it.. a Tko & a Ko MIGHT BE DIFFERent In nature but they are CALLED knockouts.. go down in the record books with EQUAL billing & recorded as a KO.. iF WE SEPARATED tKO'S & Ko's.. in other words separated the forms in which every fighter has gotten a knockout.. we;d Have baseball statistics in BOXING.. **** E VEN bYRD & lewis HAVE AN EXTRA KO ON THERE record.. DO WE LIST there KO'S & classify them as being dominated but getting the Ko' anyways because in both instances dr's with phd's stopped the fights? They all count as KO'S son.. get that through your skull.. truth be told about 80% of Ko's are Tko's IN DISGUISE... so do you want to call a GREAT TKO artist to maKE yOU feel better WHN HIS kO'S count exactly the same as Tyson's Lewis's Or whomever.. WHY DON'T WE just say Vitali has the greatest TKO % of alltime in the heavyweight division To make you happy.. But then wouldn't that be an unofficial statement.. as we'd have to go through every heavy who ever lived & separated there tko's QUITTAGE.. corner stoppagwes.. cut stoppages > & one punch put you to sleep Ko's.. But hey if that'll make you happyt.. son... let's contact the boixing commision rules & records committee.

I get it perfectly fine, it is you who is showing a lack of understanding especially in relation to the term knock out artist.


All TKO's are not created equal, this is boxing 101. Some TKO's are nasty while some are mundane just rating them all the same is not living in the real world.

[jimmy1569]

LOL yes, adding fat makes you stronger and increases your chances of winning. Very good.

I guess Peter came in at 265 against Chambers for extra strength too. He needed even more strength than against Vitali?! man. Chambers must be a dynamite puncher.

and in fact, Wladimir's opponents actually come in shape a lot of the time. Peter came in much better shape against Wladimir than Vitali(both times, particularly the first fight), and Sanders came in much better shape too.

You are correct.... For Vitali He was coming in over his normal weight for the added strength factor. For Chambers.. it was just the same exact thing but to push Chambers around.. in each instance he was packing on the lbs to be an immovable force of nature. for Wlad.. he was not so initimidated,, seeing how he knocked him down 3 times in there earlier. It's all psychological with Peter when it comes to his weight... thanks for pointing that out to me .. son.

[Steak]

You are correct.... For Vitali He was coming in over his normal weight for the added strength factor. For Chambers.. it was just the same exact thing but to push Chambers around.. in each instance he was packing on the lbs to be an immovable force of nature. for Wlad.. he was not so initimidated,, seeing how he knocked him down 3 times in there earlier. It's all psychological with Peter when it comes to his weight... thanks for pointing that out to me .. son.

the fact that you think that Peters fatassness is an advantage is hilarious. outrageous, really.

youve been upgraded to WladOwns status.

[jimmy1569]

I get it perfectly fine, it is you who is showing a lack of understanding especially in relation to the term knock out artist.


All TKO's are not created equal, this is boxing 101. Some TKO's are nasty while some are mundane just rating them all the same is not living in the real world.

No i get exactly what you're saying.. you want to separate Vitali's Ko's & classify them as inferior to a David Tua's.. Foremans.. Tyson's Or Lewis Ko's... YoU'VE been imp[lying that from your first thread when I stated Vitali knocks you the **** out INSTEAD OF KNOCKS YOU OUT OR technically knocks you out.

You want to look through all these heavy sluggers histories & all there knockouts & I'll show you the same similar pattern of Vitali's KO'S... most of Vitali's early Ko's WERE short & sweet... afterall was HE NOT the only heavyweight in history to start his career by knocking out the first 27 fighters he faced???

No.. A KNOCKOUT artist CAN'T be bothered with such nonsense... This means Vitali Klitschko has the BEST ko% EVER to start a career & ofcourse he has the best Ko% for his entire career. Now if we separated all the Tko's to Ko's.. THE MAJORITY OF HIS WOULD favor greatly to all the other "SO CALLED" kO ARTISTS iN terms of rds dispatched.. ref counts.. He might not have any UNCONSCIOUS ko's but how many of the great sluggers do.. perhaps one or 2 if lucky at the most.

How many has Foreman put to sleep? I think That'S a zero. Tyson... one punch power yes.. but how many unconscious.. Tua has had one or two in Ruiz & Perhaps someone else. Lewis maybe.. Rahman Or SOMEBODY ELSE.. pOINT IS the complete sleep inducing ko IS RARE.. oNE PUNCH kO'S are left & a count of ten & those are sometimes too close to call as a Tko CAN SOMETIMES BE MORE devestating DEPENDING ON THE fight. Point is Vitali Klitschko is a knockout artist & so are many other sluggers who get knockouts

Your point all along was to demean Vitali's Ko's.. Go look at his first 27 fights.. you'll see the same exact stoppages as other reknowned sluggers,, it's only his last 17 fights where his stoppaGES HAVE COME AROUND THE 8th rd on the average But he's rectifying that & Nodody he fights any longer is going past 6 rds.. First rd Ko IN HIS last fight just to show you he means business. ,, kapish!

[Jedi Vader]

This thread sums up exactly why nobody likes the Klits and their Klitlickers.

[jimmy1569]

I get it perfectly fine, it is you who is showing a lack of understanding especially in relation to the term knock out artist.


All TKO's are not created equal, this is boxing 101. Some TKO's are nasty while some are mundane just rating them all the same is not living in the real world.

Again... not rating them all the same but the definition of knockout is one & the same & that simply states you've stopped your opponent from continuing or hearing the final bell. A KNOCKOUT ARTIST simply means someone who knocks you out often.. it doesn't describe the knockout itself & how you got it.. you seem to think just because it's called knockout.. it should be 10 seconds waking you up from a sleep induced coma with smelling salts.. when you ,emtion the word knockout.. it's not describing a particular one. so it's ludicrous to say Vitali isn't a KO artist when he gets the KO more often than anyone in the history of boxing 200 lbs & above.... kapish!

[daggum]

how do you expect them to move and box when they are like 30 pounds overweight? these guys are coming in between 240-260 when they should be 220 tops. the only guy who was physically capable of doing that was haye and he's a lousy boxer. he's more of a power puncher masquerading as a boxer. the division is crap. it deserves no attention. if any other division had so many fat slobs it would have been shut down and retired by now.

[The Gambler1981]

Again... not rating them all the same but the definition of knockout is one & the same & that simply states you've stopped your opponent from continuing or hearing the final bell. A KNOCKOUT ARTIST simply means someone who knocks you out often.. it doesn't describe the knockout itself & how you got it.. you seem to think just because it's called knockout.. it should be 10 seconds waking you up from a sleep induced coma with smelling salts.. when you ,emtion the word knockout.. it's not describing a particular one. so it's ludicrous to say Vitali isn't a KO artist when he gets the KO more often than anyone in the history of boxing 200 lbs & above.... kapish!

I am sorry that it bugs you but just getting stoppages doesn't make you a knock out artist.

If you are not actually knocking someone out you really aren't a knock out artist.

Technical knock outs do not equal real knock out always, a specific example would be the Arreola fight, a real knock out artist would have left that fat slob laying or at the very least not realizing what happened to him~

Same with Briggs who was just there for a pay check, can't get a fat slob out of there who was there to just get paid, please a real knock out artist stops that fight easily no matter how tough Briggs chin is. No matter what happened after it went to decision.

Being a knock out artist needs no explanation, and you trying so hard to justify it shows exactly why he isn't one.

I hold every fighter to that standard, it isn't a Vitali thing it is a boxing thing.

[daggum]

I am sorry that it bugs you but just getting stoppages doesn't make you a knock out artist.

If you are not actually knocking someone out you really aren't a knock out artist.

Technical knock outs do not equal real knock out always, a specific example would be the Arreola fight, a real knock out artist would have left that fat slob laying or at the very least not realizing what happened to him~

Same with Briggs who was just there for a pay check, can't get a fat slob out of there who was there to just get paid, please a real knock out artist stops that fight easily no matter how tough Briggs chin is. No matter what happened after it went to decision.

Being a knock out artist needs no explanation, and you trying so hard to justify it shows exactly why he isn't one.

I hold every fighter to that standard, it isn't a Vitali thing it is a boxing thing.

calzaghe is a knock out artist!

[The Gambler1981]

calzaghe is a knock out artist!

On this topic we can actually agree~