MistakeMISTAKE EVERYONE MAKES FIGHTING VITALI KLITSCHKO

[Steak]

actually the mistake opponents make against Vitali is they dont train and come in fat. literally every top level opponent hes beaten has been overweight.

Peter: 10+lbs overweight
Arreola: 15+lbs overweight
Sanders: 10+lbs overweight
Kirk Johnson: 20+lbs overweight
Solis: 20+lbs overweight
Gomez: 10+lbs overweight

the most in shape guy was Gomez. thats sad.

[The Gambler1981]

See... now you're being a ******.. i just schooled you on the meaning of knockout... but you choose to focus on the ESPN HIGHlight form of the word.. It's called KO for a ****ing reason.. SURE ALL knockouts are different but if YOU don't think they have the same equal meaning when putting it into your record.. then you need your heaD examined. If Vitali ain't NO KO artist then no one is... moron!

No you gave me the definition of TKO or technical knock out, why would they use a term TKO if it is counted the exact same way.

Sure some TKO's are as devastating as regular knockouts, but certainly not all and the way Arreola was stopped was definitely not like a real knock out~

A guy isn't a knock out artist unless he is stopping guys, leaving them laying. Just getting stoppages isn't enough.

[gingeralbino]

& one MORE thing about the GREATEST knockout artist in the history of heavyweight boxing.. Knockouts to him are ANY form of a stoppage... as long as you DON'T survive the full 12.. he could care less how he attains it.. If THE REF stops it so be it... if the dr stops it so be it... if the fighter himself says no mas so be it... if the fighter's corner throws in the towel so be it... knockout;'s to Him IS YOU NOT LASTING 12... He'S BEEN ABLE TO get the treasured stoppages 88.64 % of the time...The 3 times a fighter has played defense & lasted all 12.... it's been a 36 rds to none SHUTOUT... THE TWO TIMES HE FAILED TO WIN A FIGHT.... he won 12 of 15 rds.. so IF YOU'RE not getting stopped by him EXPECT to win 3 rds out of 51 RDS FOUGHT.. Funny how that 94% scorecard ratio is EXACTLY the same against the 39 fighters he stopped & the 5 fighters he FAILED to halt.

As you can see Byrd.. Hoffman Lewis.. Johnson & Briggs all in chronological order all had what it takes to survive but ALL COLLECTIVELY suffered the same exact beatdown as those who failed to make the bell.. scorecard wise.. exactly the same beatdowns.

So like i said.. you choose how you go out against Vitali Klitschko but you'll be getting DOMINAted just the same when it comes time for the scorecards to be read. I just read them to you & it's always in Vitali's favor 94 to 95 % of the time regardless of the outcome of the bouts.. my bad as it was ONLY 80% of the time when he lost... afterall he's only human OTHERWise the most dominating fighter in boxing history would just be some aforementioned programmed 'robot' But we all Know that's not the case... right?

Funny.... last i heard stoppages are Knockouts.. talk about ignorance & let's stop the thinking that Vitali doesn't get his maN OUT OF THERE in a variety of ways.. He has 39 KO'S & MOST of them are of the violent nature & YES he also has several one punch concussive shots on his resume.. His last 2 knockouts were attained with one shot.. so you don't have to look too far. Vitali Ko's you in a variety of ways as I explained & while there's no put you to sleep Ko's (lucky for his victims)... he's caused plenty of concussions.

See... now you're being a ******.. i just schooled you on the meaning of knockout... but you choose to focus on the ESPN HIGHlight form of the word.. It's called KO for a ****ing reason.. SURE ALL knockouts are different but if YOU don't think they have the same equal meaning when putting it into your record.. then you need your heaD examined. If Vitali ain't NO KO artist then no one is... moron!

Lewis KO6 Vitali

[jimmy1569]

You have changed your story ten times, you start with he will knock you the fuck out (KTFO) when I told you that wasn't going to happen you go on this whole deal about how he really is a knock out artist stopping guys in many ways. There is only one way to define knocked the fuck out, that is a guy on his back unconscious.

Now we have been going around about Chris crying first you say he is happy because the fight ends now you are saying he cried because he let his fans down.

When you get a consistent thesis come see me, if you want to ramble about bullshit espousing the greatness of Vitali don't bother I already consider him highly.

I just find your reasoning bullshit because it has no basis in reality.

Dude.. seriously i'm poking fun at how pathetic your boy was for crying in front of the HBO CAMERAS .. who gives a **** waht isa reasoning was for doing so.. i was merely showing you how idiotic you have been.. Ktfo & Ko are different forms of expression & while I did use KTFO IN AN ABSOLUTE MANNER i DO know the difference. You on the other hand are trying to school me on what KO really means & that it's an insult for Vitali to be even mentioned in the same breath as a Ko artist.. WHEN HE'S the most likel;y to get a KO.. so if he's not a Ko artist... what is he A kO pAINTER oR A KO bY DEFAULT getter.. AN ARTIST or a leader of a certain craft & being the best at doing it should classify one as an artist.. the fact that your idiotic claims of him being nothing of the kind when I CLEARLY illustrated to you the meaning of the words & the various ways one can obtain a KO.. just shows me who i'm dealing with.. don't go there with me.. everyone know si'm like the ENERGIZER ****ing bunny Up in here & always get the last word..

[The Gambler1981]

Dude.. seriously i'm poking fun at how pathetic your boy was for crying in front of the HBO CAMERAS .. who gives a **** waht isa reasoning was for doing so.. i was merely showing you how idiotic you have been.. Ktfo & Ko are different forms of expression & while I did use KTFO IN AN ABSOLUTE MANNER i DO know the difference. You on the other hand are trying to school me on what KO really means & that it's an insult for Vitali to be even mentioned in the same breath as a Ko artist.. WHEN HE'S the most likel;y to get a KO.. so if he's not a Ko artist... what is he A kO pAINTER oR A KO bY DEFAULT getter.. AN ARTIST or a leader of a certain craft & being the best at doing it should classify one as an artist.. the fact that your idiotic claims of him being nothing of the kind when I CLEARLY illustrated to you the meaning of the words & the various ways one can obtain a KO.. just shows me who i'm dealing with.. don't go there with me.. everyone know si'm like the ENERGIZER ****ing bunny Up in here & always get the last word..

I don't like Arreola at all, I just said he wasn't getting knocked out that night if not for his corner stopping it. I like guys who know how to box not sloppy undisciplined guys who have a bit of natural talent.

Sorry you can't understand something that simple.

[Tiozzo]

The ones who stand right in front of him or actually have the gall to pressure him like Areolla did get Ktfo sooner.. rather than later. You want to be competitive or at least last a few more rds... you have to back the **** up... in other words make him come to you. Three examples that fared well or remotely better than others were able to utilyze this tactic..... make Klitschko chase you around the ring is your ONLY shot, Chris Byrd.. Kevin Johnson & at times Corrie Sanders took it to the ropes.. relying on reflexes to save there aS$$...

By doing so they were able to smother or take the lather off of some of Klitschko's bombs or in the case of Byrd & Johnson.. make him miss outright but not making him pay in return. DON'T stand & trade with Klitschko... he always will get the better of the exchanges & bombs as he'll beat you to the punch EVERYTIME...

YOU EITHER get ktfo or retired when you go toe to toe with him>>> look up Shannon Briggs & Lennox Lewis for examples of fighters NEVER STEPPING FOOT in the ring again because they decided to attempt to trade in the middle OF THE ring.

the thread made too much sense up to that point, you had to ruin it, it's in your nature

TROLL

[jimmy1569]

actually the mistake opponents make against Vitali is they dont train and come in fat. literally every top level opponent hes beaten has been overweight.

Peter: 10+lbs overweight
Arreola: 15+lbs overweight
Sanders: 10+lbs overweight
Kirk Johnson: 20+lbs overweight
Solis: 20+lbs overweight
Gomez: 10+lbs overweight

the most in shape guy was Gomez. thats sad.

Afterawhile... don't you think it's more planned seeing how they're facing one of the biggest fighters in stature.. size. strength whathave you in boxing HISTORY... don't you think it's a little intimidating if you ain't got outwordly speed & footwork advantages to come in at your normal weight.. These fighters are intentionally.. subconsciously or again whathaveyou getting bigger because of how big there humongous opponent,, thinking foolishly.. the extra weight will give them more strength & therefore they won't be pushed around as much & Just to show you the merits of this... are Wlad's opponents coming in way overweight also? Who's More INTIMIDATING IN STATURE Wlad or Vitali.... VitaLI IS A couple of INCHES taller & is known as the meaner brother... nuff said!

[Steak]

LOL yes, adding fat makes you stronger and increases your chances of winning. Very good.

I guess Peter came in at 265 against Chambers for extra strength too. He needed even more strength than against Vitali?! man. Chambers must be a dynamite puncher.

and in fact, Wladimir's opponents actually come in shape a lot of the time. Peter came in much better shape against Wladimir than Vitali(both times, particularly the first fight), and Sanders came in much better shape too.

[jimmy1569]

No you gave me the definition of TKO or technical knock out, why would they use a term TKO if it is counted the exact same way.

Sure some TKO's are as devastating as regular knockouts, but certainly not all and the way Arreola was stopped was definitely not like a real knock out~

A guy isn't a knock out artist unless he is stopping guys, leaving them laying. Just getting stoppages isn't enough.

again... you fail to get it.. a Tko & a Ko MIGHT BE DIFFERent In nature but they are CALLED knockouts.. go down in the record books with EQUAL billing & recorded as a KO.. iF WE SEPARATED tKO'S & Ko's.. in other words separated the forms in which every fighter has gotten a knockout.. we;d Have baseball statistics in BOXING.. **** E VEN bYRD & lewis HAVE AN EXTRA KO ON THERE record.. DO WE LIST there KO'S & classify them as being dominated but getting the Ko' anyways because in both instances dr's with phd's stopped the fights? They all count as KO'S son.. get that through your skull.. truth be told about 80% of Ko's are Tko's IN DISGUISE... so do you want to call a GREAT TKO artist to maKE yOU feel better WHN HIS kO'S count exactly the same as Tyson's Lewis's Or whomever.. WHY DON'T WE just say Vitali has the greatest TKO % of alltime in the heavyweight division To make you happy.. But then wouldn't that be an unofficial statement.. as we'd have to go through every heavy who ever lived & separated there tko's QUITTAGE.. corner stoppagwes.. cut stoppages > & one punch put you to sleep Ko's.. But hey if that'll make you happyt.. son... let's contact the boixing commision rules & records committee.

[jimmy1569]

the thread made too much sense up to that point, you had to ruin it, it's in your nature

TROLL

So what you're saying is you've seen Lewis & Briggs fight professionally after going Vitali Klitschko? Just stating facts... no need to get testy.. son.