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  • #51
    Originally posted by TBOGGS78 View Post
    Whoever that was that said PAC is 10x better then Floyd just wanted to hear himself talk. PAC fans are such hypocrits. Now that FLOYD is fighting a young and strong fighter a lot of the PAC fans think Ortiz has a shot because FLOYD is getting older. If that's the case if FLOYD really is getting older and we know FLOYD stays in shape doesn't drink and takes good care of his body. How do you explain how PAC who has been fighting longer then FLOYD has fought many more fights then FLOYD and been in many more tough fights then FLOYD how come he's not showing any signs of aging. Im sure you PAC fans will try to defend PAC with some lame excuse. All the great fighters started to show signs of age once they got in their 30's. Roy, Tyson, Chavez, Sweet Pee, Ali, Norris, Trinidad, De La Hoya, Leonard I could go on and on. Even Hopkins shows signs of age but he wins his fights on smarts and ring knowledge he hasn't had a ko since De La Hoya. If Hopkins moved up to heavyweight and KO one of theose guys you would be saying the same thing FLOYD is he needs to be tested. However PAC seems to be only getting stronger and faster the older he gets. PLEASE EXPLAIN
    This is a typical desperaton of a crying baby once you don't give a candy he is asking for. Floyd no longer attacking Pac of using PED, but simply insisting that NSAC rules must be followed particularly in blood testing procedure should he fight Pac. And Pac had already answers his demand and he openly said that he is more than willing to be blood-tested even after 6 rounds, provided both survives these rounds!

    After Floyd accused him first of using PED openly, Pac doesn't needs to prove anything in person, but he will be summoned to proves otherwise in court!

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    • #52
      Originally posted by TBOGGS78 View Post
      Whoever that was that said PAC is 10x better then Floyd just wanted to hear himself talk. PAC fans are such hypocrits. Now that FLOYD is fighting a young and strong fighter a lot of the PAC fans think Ortiz has a shot because FLOYD is getting older. If that's the case if FLOYD really is getting older and we know FLOYD stays in shape doesn't drink and takes good care of his body. How do you explain how PAC who has been fighting longer then FLOYD has fought many more fights then FLOYD and been in many more tough fights then FLOYD how come he's not showing any signs of aging. Im sure you PAC fans will try to defend PAC with some lame excuse. All the great fighters started to show signs of age once they got in their 30's. Roy, Tyson, Chavez, Sweet Pee, Ali, Norris, Trinidad, De La Hoya, Leonard I could go on and on. Even Hopkins shows signs of age but he wins his fights on smarts and ring knowledge he hasn't had a ko since De La Hoya. If Hopkins moved up to heavyweight and KO one of theose guys you would be saying the same thing FLOYD is he needs to be tested. However PAC seems to be only getting stronger and faster the older he gets. PLEASE EXPLAIN
      So with BHop and Sergio Martinez - they two are seeming to get better in their older age; w/c by the way both are much older than Pacquiao. So by your philosophy they two must be on PEDs also correct? Please explain w/your theory why BHop and Maravilla are doing so well? Or are they all on "Power Pellets?"

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      • #53
        Just watched Pacquaio-Marquez II again. Intentionally scoring all the close rounds for Pac, I had it six rounds apiece, which means Pac wins by one point because of the KD. I think the controversy of this fight is that the rounds JMM won were for the most part decisive. I had at least 3, and maybe 4 rounds that I scored for Pac that could have easily gone to JMM. This is why many who watched fekt JMM deserved the decision.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by hitking View Post
          If the Pacquaio that fought Mosley shows up in Nov, this Mayweather-Pacquaio debate will become moot because Pac is gonna lose. Of course, the Pacquaio faithful will find some way to justify their claim that Pac is historically superior to Money. But all logical fight fans will knwo that this whole Pacmania nonsense will have been a media created sham.
          A media created sham? Really? Has Floyd fought Cotto, Margarito, or Clottey and win? All three were way over Pacs weight at fight night. Paquiao won all three convincingly. I'll wait till Floyd fights Pacs leftovers and see how Floyd does before calling PAC a fraud, sham, braggart and charlatan. Oh but wait, I don' think Fraud will fight any of the three b/c the three has a chance to KTFO his A*S*S.

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          • #55
            A determined hall of famer who seems to be getting ready for this fight with legacy and glory in mind rather than money. I like it. I have to say i didnt like this weight but at least in photos he looks to be putting on weight well and looks strong. If he can bring power and speed then we got a fight. JMM has Pac's number skill wise but can he handle the weight. If he can then i think he wins close

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            • #56
              Originally posted by uglypug View Post
              lol come on juan, you landed like 6 more power punches. . . but manny knocked you down thrice in the first fight, and once in the second fight. the difference was that the judges simply favored aggression. wasn't a robbery at all. marquez could just have easily won and it wouldn't have been a robbery either. just one of those fights. . .

              i beez fux'ing with bofh of dem. . . but it's not a good idea to insult the judges BEFORE the fight - then they will score against you whenever possible.
              Which is ridiculous, aggression is what played into Marquez' hands.

              Judges who score for "activity", "volume" or "aggression", are simply inept.

              Yay the american " entertainment " industry

              Marquez clearly won the second fight, and in their first encounter Pac knocked JMM down 3 times in the first round and broke his nose..... but STILL couldnt beat him.

              " we all know who won that fight, Pacquiao got a boxing lesson "

              Pacquiao is only fighting Marquez now, because the world has already seen that Marquez cant hang at welter.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Hindsight 20/10 View Post
                So with BHop and Sergio Martinez - they two are seeming to get better in their older age; w/c by the way both are much older than Pacquiao. So by your philosophy they two must be on PEDs also correct? Please explain w/your theory why BHop and Maravilla are doing so well? Or are they all on "Power Pellets?"
                LOL dude, he did explain how BHop and Sergio have gotten better with age. Did you actually read his post? Bhop and Maravilla are using their smarts to beat their opponents. Bernard hasn't had a knockout in several years and Sergio is knocking out guys who leave themselves WAY TOO OPEN. Manny Pacquiao on the other hand is using his strength and speed to dominate his opponents. EVER have we seen a fighter get stronger and faster as he gets older. All the greats lost a step when they hit 30. Since when has a fighter gotten better after 30???

                And to the fool who said Pacquiao is 10X better than Mayweather, the guy in your avatar doesn't think so.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by jnapoli85 View Post
                  I can't wait till JMM goes away, the only reason he is still even talked about in boxing is because of manny. In no way did he win either fight, if anything he is lucky he got the draw on the first fight because of an idiot judge who didn't know you can score a 10-6 round. Every commentator had Manny ahead as did Lettermen. It really doesn't matter Manny is going to put him down for good after this fight, then he will go away.
                  Pacboy, even mommy Dionesia had Marquez winning the second fight

                  Sugar and Bernstein each think that Marquez won BOTH fights.

                  Whats the weather like in pacland today ?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Phantomas View Post
                    He can do it, Márquez looks stronger than ever and he is by far the better boxer as we know.
                    by saying this, clearly you're not following boxing..

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by hitking View Post
                      If one doesn't respect JMM, you're not a true fight fan. And regardless of who you feel deserved the decision in their first two fights, neither fighter established himself as superior to the other. This is why this fight is interesting.

                      BTW, even if JMM is blown out by Pac, the only thing that will make him "go away" is that he announces his retirement. Because he's the proud owner of this little thing called the universally recignized lightweight title. And that keeps him relevant, win or lose, in true fight fans' eyes.
                      Great post man.

                      FACT: Marquez is a lightweight, so this fight proves nothing.

                      It will not determine " once-and-for-all " who is the better fighter.

                      Michael Koncz has already admitted that Pacquiao ducked JMM because.....
                      ..... " Marquez has Manny's number ".

                      It is absurd that Manny has "conceded" a weight that he can barely make himself, after admitting that his best weight is 140.

                      Pacland

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