The Mistake EVERYBODY Makes Against Mayweather.

[Gino Ros]

Always felt winning the first round and then forcing floyd to chase would be crucial

Doesn't he pretty much give the first couple of rounds away against most opponents?

[William Blake]

This is definately an interesting idea....i remember marquez, a counter-puncher, trying to take the fight to floyd and i thought- 'what is he doing? floyd is going to eat this up'

floyd from the mosley and the ortiz fight seems more aggressive, more willing to stand and trade....if he does this with cotto, i think the fight will be quite good- especially early.

[King of Sting]

the TS's idea has been thrown around as far as dealing w/ PBF. However, that type of gameplan needs a specific type of fighter to carry it out, and his name ain't Kneeguel Cotto.

My whole thing about boxing, it ain't the style it's the fighter. I know, I know, styles make fights, there's some truth to that, but, it's not the ultimate truth.

I can see PBF getting his &ss kicked and it's not necessarily by a particular style. The number 1 thing in order to change that 0 to 1 is that the opponent has to have comparable athletic ability or pretty d*mn close to it(he hasn't faced that fighter and the fact that he has been cherry pickin' for years now..).

And have the discipline to stick to a gameplan, doesn't matter if it's swarming him or outboxing him, the physical tools and knowing how to utilize them to the fullest is what's really important.

[Gino Ros]

the TS's idea has been thrown around as far as dealing w/ PBF. However, that type of gameplan needs a specific type of fighter to carry it out, and his name ain't Kneeguel Cotto.

My whole thing about boxing, it ain't the style it's the fighter. I know, I know, styles make fights, there's some truth to that, but, it's not the ultimate truth.

I can see PBF getting his &ss kicked and it's not necessarily by a particular style. The number 1 thing in order to change that 0 to 1 is that the opponent has to have comparable athletic ability or pretty d*mn close to it(he hasn't faced that fighter and the fact that he has been cherry pickin' for years now..).

And have the discipline to stick to a gameplan, doesn't matter if it's swarming him or outboxing him, the physical tools and knowing how to utilize them to the fullest is what's really important.

Don't you feel that Shane Mosley has a comparable set of physical tools?

[check hook]

Judah had early success because he boxed and countered Floyd using his feet and handspeed. He was aggressive, but he didn't flat out attack. Most of the good punches he landed were when he made Floyd step into him. Judah's problem was when Floyd adjusted. Zab got him a few times, floyd adjusted to the punches Judah was landing and looking to land, and that was that. Judah couldn't change his plan.

Coming in and smothering Floyd and attacking like a hungry wolf generally won't work. He's too good inside defensively and moving backwards, and you will get tired before he does, at which point he starts laying traps and countering whilst moving backwards, before taking over. Fighters who get too agressive against Floyd usually get flattened in the later rounds.

The idea is to box him and catch him when he opens up. The guys who have had some success in patches were boxing and throwing decent volume. Castillo boxed Floyd, but he wasn't worried about looking for openings the whole time, sometimes he just threw where he thought an opening could appear. He also went downstairs. Shane was boxing and got himm when he opened up in round 2.

Cotto needs to jab floyd, and double it up, hook off the jab upstairs and downstairs if available, but he also need to use his right hand. If he doesn't use both hands he can forget about it.

[Afactor4]

Floyd Mayweather would be able to hit Floyd Mayweather...

[mozzer101]

That is why big guy with a good jab seems like a good proposition to beat Floyd, with a long good jab a fighter can control distance and if Mayweather can't get into range he can't be effective on offense.

Now just a jab probably doesn't get it done because Floyd can fight inside and knows about getting inside on a longer range fighter, but that is the place I would want to start from.

I agree Oscar had the tools but fought a ****** fight with the mentality of knocking Floyd out.

[KingKhan1]

I'm not talking as a FAN. I'm talking as an OPPONENT.

Would I rather lose aggressively...or win boring?

There isnt a way to fight mayweather. Half of Floyds fights he wins before he gets in the ring. He makes fighters feel inferior, kind of like they have to force floyd out of his comfort zone. Also, all the haters underestimate how adaptable Floyd is. For instance, against Hatton he was for the first four rounds out of sorts until he sussed Hatton's style. The reason why Floyd is so successful is that he is so confident that he is unbeatable. He gives of an aura of someone who is untouchable and wins all the prefight mindgames. His toughest fight was against Delahoya, and that was purely because Oscar is very strong minded. The reason why Floyd is negative towards a Pacman fight is that to carry off his fight plan he needs to have everything his own way. That contributes to a lot of Floyd's success. Loads of fighters feel Privaledged to fight Floyd. Why? He is only a human being. A talented one but can still die from normal diseases. As i said offence and defence is secondary. A unfaisable mindset is essential if you want to beat mayweather.

[GoogleMe]

Don't worry - Floyd is just as good fighting, when he goes forward.

[Reloaded]

There isnt a way to fight mayweather. Half of Floyds fights he wins before he gets in the ring. He makes fighters feel inferior, kind of like they have to force floyd out of his comfort zone. Also, all the haters underestimate how adaptable Floyd is. For instance, against Hatton he was for the first four rounds out of sorts until he sussed Hatton's style. The reason why Floyd is so successful is that he is so confident that he is unbeatable. He gives of an aura of someone who is untouchable and wins all the prefight mindgames. His toughest fight was against Delahoya, and that was purely because Oscar is very strong minded. The reason why Floyd is negative towards a Pacman fight is that to carry off his fight plan he needs to have everything his own way. That contributes to a lot of Floyd's success. Loads of fighters feel Privaledged to fight Floyd. Why? He is only a human being. A talented one but can still die from normal diseases. As i said offence and defence is secondary. A unfaisable mindset is essential if you want to beat mayweather.

I disagree that he was out of sorts against Hatton I thought he was in control of himself perfectly , I seen it as Hatton was very strong and bum rushed him because was he was scared to give Floyd distance of any kind , Floyd just had to wait out the initial rushing and shoving until Hatton slowed a little and allowed distance , then it was a one way street , not much you can do with a strong guy your own size and weight when he is just storming you , its not out of sorts staying calm and waiting for the pace to slow a smidgen and thats exactly what Floyd did .