How highly do you rate James Toney?

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  • HEADBANGER
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    #1

    How highly do you rate James Toney?

    James Toney is one of those fighters whose career is hard to assess, how do you personally rate him?

    even at his peak, toney was :

    - drawing with sanderline williams
    - getting a gift decision against dave tiberi
    - winning life and death split decisions against sosa and johnson
    - getting his head boxed off by jones
    - losing twice to griffin
    - losing to thadzi


    then you have his best win versus nunn, where he came from way behind for a late knockout win

    2 very close fights with an over the hill mccallum

    a good performance against barkley who had previously lost to a shot roberto duran at middleweight, and lost to nigel benn in 1 round

    a good win against jirov but who has jirov actually ever beat of note?

    then theres the fact he has twice been found guilty of taking banned anabolic steroids which significantly damages toneys reputation.



    do you think toney gets overated today, all things considered?
  • Trigg
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    #2
    Good fighter in his pomp

    Probably the most odious man on the planet

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    • Evil Abed
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      #3
      ATG talent with a very good resume.

      One of the most naturally gifted fighters ever.

      Hell of a chin.

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      • New England
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        #4
        Originally posted by ThePhantom5
        ATG talent with a very good resume.

        One of the most naturally gifted fighters ever.

        Hell of a chin.



        rawrrrrr



        i'm a huge toney fan


        but really?

        he wasn't a huge puncher
        wasn't slow, but wasn't terribly fast either of hand or foot.


        he had a great chin, and reflexes and poise

        but a lot of his prowess in the ring came from his tricks and not his gifts

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        • daggum
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          #5
          you started a bash hopkins thread which was completely shut down and made you look silly so now you want to bash toney? i'm guessing roy jones is next. i'll get you started. roy jones fought nothing but cab drivers and police officers and ducked calzaghe, benn and dariusz. his best wins are over a green hopkins and a weight drained toney. oh yeah and he took roids and had a glass chin.

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          • Sadistic
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            #6
            Toney was knocked down, badly hurt several times and DOMINATED by Sam Peter.







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            • Sadistic
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              #7


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              • Sadistic
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                #8
                Wlad dominated Peter twice and knocked him out in the rematch.

                Vitali came back after a 4 year layoff and easily destroyed Peter.

                [IMG]http://i328.***********.com/albums/l335/boxing2005/VitalivsPeter.gif[/IMG]
                Last edited by Sadistic; 08-21-2011, 12:48 AM.

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                • NET
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                  #9
                  One of the best of all time.

                  Destroys either Klitschko if given the chance. Too skilled for the robotic, one dimensional protected Russians.

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                  • STRUGG
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                    #10
                    MAster of the shoulder roll.........true king of the counter right.............

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