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  • Jedi Vader
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    Who is the Future of Heavyweight Boxing?

    By Shaun Murphy

    The heavyweight division has undergone a demographic shift! In the not-to-distant past, American heavyweights dominated boxing’s golden division and, frankly, the rest of Planet Earth’s inhabitants couldn’t compete. Nowadays, Europeans hold the power, but can Americans return to their previous thrones?

    Why America Dominated?

    A core prerequisite for a nation to produce elite-level heavyweight fighters is a reservoir of big men who are willing to take the risks, a market to promote them and great trainers to hone their skills. Of course, when legalized fist fighting was first introduced into America those three elements existed in such abundance that in the 1920s there was an estimated 20,000 heavyweight boxers.

    But times have changed. The days of Rocky Maricano learning his craft while punching his way through club fighters in Boston, Massachusetts and Mike Tyson working himself into a prism of organized rage in the Catskill Mountains of Upstate New York are over. I believe the reason for this is a mixture of improved educational opportunities and sports such American football, basketball and mixed martial arts becoming the first choice for big American athletes.

    This has resulted in a shallow pool of talent and Las Vegas’ Caesar’s Palace and New York City’s Madison Square Garden being replaced by the Imtech Arena in Hamburg, Germany as heavyweights with names as hard to pronounce as their punches are to take hold centre stage.

    Why Europeans are on Top?

    I don’t believe Europeans are supermen. In fact, many are awkward and crude and seem to lack the finesse that turns brawling into art. Nevertheless, the aforementioned sociological prerequisite for elite-level fighters exists in Europe to such a degree that sheer numbers are invading the heavyweight ranks in a wave of violence that American fighters can’t cope with. If you call it war, manpower is overwhelming a weakened enemy.

    Wladimir Klitschko, on the British boxing programme Ringside, said the European amateur system is the cause of their dominance. I agree. Although American gyms have the big-time trainers and the money to create great fighters, European nations such as Russia, the Ukraine and even Britain have a grass roots amateur system that skims its fighting cream into structures that result in fighters such as the Klitschkos, Thomas Ademek, Robert Helunius and Tyson Fury. And, in Europe, there aren’t the same opportunities to enter other sports: combined with the decline in American numbers, that’s why the division has changed.

    Who Will be Next?

    I believe the golden age of the American heavyweight is over and the effects of the effeminate elements of the culture – such as rabid consumerism (please don’t take offence) – have entered the collective subconscious and created men who see heavyweight boxing as too hard a way to earn their money, and who can blame them?

    This may be a bitter pill for many Americans to swallow, but there is a chance of redemption. Destroy the NFL, the NBA, your educational system, Hollywood, the UFC, the free market, equal opportunities, the music industry and any other au****ious opportunity that that your biggest, toughest are offered. If not, buy a ticket to Germany and just accept what’s happened. Hell, in 40 years’ time, the epicentre of heavyweight boxing just might be India?
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    I can't see any future Champion that will bring excitement back to the Division.

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      I'm not sure what the future is but it doesn't look that great. For all the bad mouthing the Klitschkos get, I know they do have talent. I seen Vitali show heart against a HOF fighter in Lennox Lewis and you can clearly see Wlad has talent as well. After these two there is a MAJOR and I do mean MAJOR drop off in talent, whether it is a fighter from America or Eastern Europe. Dudes that got destroyed by the Klitschkos like Eddie Chambers or dudes that would get destroyed like Povetkin are in the same pot, they are okay but clearly not up to the challenge of the top two. To me it seems like when the Klitschkos retire the HW division will be at the worst point in its history. At least you have two true athletes right now. When they're gone, you have nothing but bums fighting bums.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Jedi Vader
        I can only get an erection for black heavyweights, Europeans don't make me hard.
        Here's a heavyweight who will make your **** stand at attention:

        Amir Mansour (click on the link & scroll down for photo):

        http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=140030

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          #5
          Originally posted by Freedom.
          Here's a heavyweight who will make your **** stand at attention:

          Amir Mansour (click on the link & scroll down for photo):

          http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=140030
          What this guy said. Mansour is the truth son. It kinda sucks cause he's already 38 but dude is a straight up dog.

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          • nomadman
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            Europeans don't have opportunities to enter other sports? What ignorance! What arrogance! What outrageousness! We also have lawn bowls dontcha know?

            Still, I often ponder our good fortune. Were it not for the fact that boxing is by far and away the most popular sport in every single European country (including Spain, Italy and Australia) then I don't know what we would do with the big lumbering oafs we call athletes. Probably send them to work on our potato farms.

            As it is, even the D-level American fighters that are left over from the NFL and Elite XC can't help but be overwhelmed by our superior waves of flabby talentless bums. It's the simple law of numbers.

            But I hear an NBA reject called Deontay Wilder is coming to claim the belts. I can't speak for any other dirt-poor Euro living in a Commie-built housing estate, but I myself am positively terrified.

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              Most likely and eastern European since they are coming out in droves.

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              • Jedi Vader
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                #8
                Originally posted by Freedom.
                Here's a heavyweight who will make your **** stand at attention:

                Amir Mansour (click on the link & scroll down for photo):

                http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=140030
                You put me on ignore and then you have the audacity to enter my thread?

                Get the **** out of here you racist hypocritical ****.

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                  Europe.

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                  • Jedi Vader
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by It's Ovah
                    Europeans don't have opportunities to enter other sports? What ignorance! What arrogance! What outrageousness! We also have lawn bowls dontcha know?

                    Still, I often ponder our good fortune. Were it not for the fact that boxing is by far and away the most popular sport in every single European country (including Spain, Italy and Australia) then I don't know what we would do with the big lumbering oafs we call athletes. Probably send them to work on our potato farms.

                    As it is, even the D-level American fighters that are left over from the NFL and Elite XC can't help but be overwhelmed by our superior waves of flabby talentless bums. It's the simple law of numbers.

                    But I hear an NBA reject called Deontay Wilder is coming to claim the belts. I can't speak for any other dirt-poor Euro living in a Commie-built housing estate, but I myself am positively terrified.
                    Hahahaha great post.

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