ali would have made tyson look foolish

[fists of stone]

i used to think tyson would win but prime vs prime ali makes him look like a child

[GattiFan]

Tyson would have made Ali look like a child.

See how easy that is?

Just...switch the names around.

This has been debated for decades now.

Thanks for all the facts, reasons, statistics that back up your point AND for reminding us that it will never be settled.

[amir is king]

Cause Brother Muhammad was a man of God and with the power of Allah he would beat the infidel Tyson

[LaMigra]

Cause Brother Muhammad was a man of God and with the power of Allah he would beat the infidel Tyson

Unfortunately, there is no god... Only cute stories about a big boat and all sorts of animals and a flood and water walking and 72 ******* with mustaches etc etc

[tennis-legend]

Got people living like ****** to an imaginary friend in a desert. What a ****tie way to live.

the laws of the universe are so well tuned it only makes sense if there was someone to tune them

dont discount darwinian expainations but dont buy it as a be all and end all of discussion

its like this

everytime in history some people have thought we know everything or maybe even 10% of everything there is to know

when in fact we don't even know 0.000000001% of what there is to know

that doesn't prove God's existence- no one can prove God exists- we can give circumstantial evidence- but ultimatley its faith

when you drop a coin you can't ever know for certain it will hit the floor

you can test it 100 times- and have a theory but ultimatley u cannot know

in the same way- you can be certain God exists but you really cannot know

its more of a feeling

science says we dont have a soul- you do believe we have a soul?

[William Blake]

Cus trained Tyson to use Joe Frazier as a foundation for his style. Joe mother!!!king Frazier! Do you think Ali would have a problem with that?

Was Tyson better than Frazier? If he was, it was only for a moment as Tyson's star began to fall right after unifying the titles. Tyson, a very young one, had tremendous movement. Very, very fast. Then into the body and up to the head. The man was like a buzzsaw.

Tyson/ Frazier or Tyson/ Ali would've been incredible. One would be like colliding freight trains. The other......basically like Ali/ Frazier I, perhaps ending with an early KO.

[tennis-legend]

this is the thing

liston was better than frasier and tyson

however- tyson and frasier had a style advantage against ali who enjoyed giving anyone with a left hook free shots at his chin

so mayb tyson KOs ali- but ali is the better fighter by far

[The Noose]

the laws of the universe are so well tuned it only makes sense if there was someone to tune them

dont discount darwinian expainations but dont buy it as a be all and end all of discussion

its like this

everytime in history some people have thought we know everything or maybe even 10% of everything there is to know

when in fact we don't even know 0.000000001% of what there is to know

that doesn't prove God's existence- no one can prove God exists- we can give circumstantial evidence- but ultimatley its faith

when you drop a coin you can't ever know for certain it will hit the floor

you can test it 100 times- and have a theory but ultimatley u cannot know

in the same way- you can be certain God exists but you really cannot know

its more of a feeling

science says we dont have a soul- you do believe we have a soul?

The fine tuning argument is a fallacy when u study it closely.
How do you know we dont even know 0.000000001% of what there is to know?
Science doesnt say we dont have a soul. Science deals with the physical universe.

Cus trained Tyson to use Joe Frazier as a foundation for his style. Joe mother!!!king Frazier! Do you think Ali would have a problem with that?

Was Tyson better than Frazier? If he was, it was only for a moment as Tyson's star began to fall right after unifying the titles. Tyson, a very young one, had tremendous movement. Very, very fast. Then into the body and up to the head. The man was like a buzzsaw.

Tyson/ Frazier or Tyson/ Ali would've been incredible. One would be like colliding freight trains. The other......basically like Ali/ Frazier I, perhaps ending with an early KO.

Did u say Cus based Tysons style on Frazier?
Coz he didnt. Patterson came way before Frazier. Cus trained him in the same way he trained Tyson.

But i agree with ur point. Tyson early, Ali late.
But my gut tells me, prime for prime, Ali had everything it took to beat Tyson. Tyson couldnt KO everyone, and Ali had an amazing chin, heart....blah, blah, blah.....etc etc.

[tennis-legend]

Science doesnt say we dont have a soul. Science deals with the physical universe.

.

science is agnistic about God aswell

and where does dark matter fit into all this physical universe

[RightStraight]

I don't know, I believe Tyson had more than power and speed. He had the skills to back up all that speed and power. Not to mention quick to get in...Ali was a great out fighter who had an even better jab with overall complementing footwork.

I truly think no one could touch Tyson in his prime. Ali would of put up a hell of a fight, possibly going into mid-late rounds by keeping Tyson at bay. As well as being in and out with some of his combos but eventually Tyson would get on the inside and land a devestating 3-6 hit combo that would bend Ali over.