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Who is the best Hw of the last 30 years
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Originally posted by MARKBNLV View PostI could not pick between Morrison and a few others so i went with Ike as my eighth because i truly believe he was on his way to domianting the division when he went to prison.
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Originally posted by Harry Balls View Postlennox, but i could see people picking larry holmes.
Controversial opinion (and some might say moronic) but i have lennox over pretty much anyone in the history h2h, with ali and foreman being really close fights.
Originally posted by Exxpert View PostWladimir Klitschko.
Never seen anyone dominate the HW division like he is doing
Even Frank Bruno would comfortably starch Vitali and Wlad's opponents.
Originally posted by edgarg View PostTyson of course. At his peak he'd have torn Lewis to pieces in about 5-6 rounds. You guys don't appreciate his terrific bob and weave defence, which was not just a defence, but calculated to carry him in to the position where he could let go and, if he missed, which was rarely, be instantly in position to punch with the other hand, by a slight shift of weight . That's how he could let go 5-6 punch combinations at top speed.
Yoou guys don't know what you've missed in not seeing Tyson at hs best .Last edited by Jedi Vader; 08-14-2011, 04:34 PM.
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The Klitschkos are the negrocutioners.
Wladimir and Vitali are the two greatest heavyweights of all time.
Either Klitschko beats any HW from any era.
Facts about Wladimir Klitschko:
- IBF/WBO/WBA/IBO/RING Unified Heavyweight Champion of The World
- All Time Great and Hall Of Famer
- Most dominant Heavyweight Champ of all time
- Olympic Gold Medalist
- RING Top 5 p4p
- 56 wins, 49 knockouts
- has defeated 10 world champions
- has defeated 9 undefeated fighters
- has defeated tons of top contenders
- has made 17 dominant title defences
- hasn't lost a round since the first Peter fight way back in 2005
Facts about Vitali Klitschko:
- WBC Heavyweight Champion of the world
- All Time Great and Hall Of Famer
- There is no blueprint to beat him
- He is unbeatable
- He has dominated every opponent he has ever faced
- Has never been behind on the scorecards at the end of a fight
- Has a great chin, never been down
- 39 KOs in 42 wins, greatest heavyweight champ KO% of all time
- Only man ever to be world heavyweight champ in boxing and kickboxing
It's a shame that injuries/4 year layoff robbed him of a stronger resume. If Vitali didn't get injured, he would've dominated the HW division from 2005-2008 and his resume would've been much stronger today, maybe on par with Wlad's great resume.
Vitali is 40 years old now. He came back after the 4 year layoff and is still dominating the HW division. He hasn't lost a single round in his comeback.
Vitali beats any HW from any era.
Next Victim: Tomasz Adamek
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Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis
THE TRUTH
Vitali took the fight on just 10 days notice.
Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards at the time of the controversial doctor stoppage. Lewis barely survived the 2nd round, he was badly hurt, holding on for dear life, wobbling everywhere and staggering around the ring like a drunk. Lewis was badly hurt several times in the fight and was getting outboxed, outworked, outmuscled and outlanded by Vitali.
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Vitali 156
Lewis 102
Lewis was exhausted, worn down and hurt from the accumulation of punches and was ready to get KTFO again, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was clearly the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.
After the fight, Vitali intimidated the shit out of Lewis and made him look like a bitch.
All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight.
Lewis promised Vitali a rematch.
Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and called out Lewis again in the post fight interview. The scared Lewis retired shortly after that fight.
Lewis turned down 30 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew he would get destroyed by Vitali.
Vitali dominated Lewis and scared his bitch ass into retirement.
George Foreman: "Vitali was winning the fight. Lewis got lucky. There has to be a rematch!"
Jim Lampley: "A lucky escape for Lewis who was clearly losing the fight"
Even Emanuel Steward was upset and pissed off at Lewis for blatantly ducking a Vitali rematch.
Lewis is scared to death of Vitali.
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Lewis was coming off the KO win over Tyson. In the Lewis-Tyson post fight interview Lewis stated "I'm like fine wine, I get better with age"
In an interview right before the Vitali fight, Lewis said "I'm at the peak of my powers, I will keep fighting for many more years"
Vitali dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement. That's a FACT.
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Originally posted by Jedi Vader View PostI have to agree with this.
Even Frank Bruno would comfortably starch Vitali and Wlad's opponents.
Tyson 86-89 is possibly the greatest and most devastating Heavyweight of all time but unfortunately, we cannot rate him on those few years.
He had "IT" the others didn't.
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Originally posted by DOMINATION View PostVitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis
THE TRUTH
Vitali took the fight on just 10 days notice.
Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards at the time of the controversial doctor stoppage. Lewis barely survived the 2nd round, he was badly hurt, holding on for dear life, wobbling everywhere and staggering around the ring like a drunk. Lewis was badly hurt several times in the fight and was getting outboxed, outworked, outmuscled and outlanded by Vitali.
punches landed
Vitali 156
Lewis 102
Lewis was exhausted, worn down and hurt from the accumulation of punches and was ready to get KTFO again, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was clearly the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.
After the fight, Vitali intimidated the shit out of Lewis and made him look like a bitch.
All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight.
Lewis promised Vitali a rematch.
Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and called out Lewis again in the post fight interview. The scared Lewis retired shortly after that fight.
Lewis turned down 30 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew he would get destroyed by Vitali.
Vitali dominated Lewis and scared his bitch ass into retirement.
George Foreman: "Vitali was winning the fight. Lewis got lucky. There has to be a rematch!"
Jim Lampley: "A lucky escape for Lewis who was clearly losing the fight"
Even Emanuel Steward was upset and pissed off at Lewis for blatantly ducking a Vitali rematch.
Lewis is scared to death of Vitali.
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