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  • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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    #1

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    #2
    only fighters will understand imo

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    • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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      #3
      yea, it's a mental strain of the highest order not just to be a fighter but to get ready for a fight..and if ur not feeling ready? THATS A TOUGH SPOT man...mentally more than anything...

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      • Sam Donald
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        #4
        Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
        yea, it's a mental strain of the highest order not just to be a fighter but to get ready for a fight..and if ur not feeling ready? THATS A TOUGH SPOT man...mentally more than anything...
        i aint a professional, but i felt it in the amateurs .. especially in last minute match ups which ive lost

        is it adversity? whats it called

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        • Cuauhtémoc1520
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          #5
          I feel for Pavlik and I agree somewhat with the piece but I felt a lot of pressure but that's what separates the metal tough from the mentally weak.

          He's a former champ but he's also gone through a lot of things in his life, especially with alcohol. Boxing is the toughest of the tough when it comes to sports, so I do understand. I just think that cancelling at the last minute is going to leave a bitter taste in many people's mouthes, especially those who are paying out money for these events.

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          • JBell11
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            I give him the benefit of the doubt. I believe the media places way too much pressure on some of these fighters.

            I hope all is well Ice!

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            • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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              #7
              think about all the fights in history that would have been different if one guy rightfully waited...Ray Robinson did it ALL THE TIME...Oliver McCall should have done it when he fought Lennox the 2nd time...sometimes -and the fighter knows- the last place he should be at the wrong time is in a boxing ring...if he was ready K-Pav would have fought, simple as that...he wasnt right for whatever reason...I love a good fiht like the next man but if a guy feels like he is ready then who are we to push him into it nyway????

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              • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                #8
                Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                think about all the fights in history that would have been different if one guy rightfully waited...Ray Robinson did it ALL THE TIME...Oliver McCall should have done it when he fought Lennox the 2nd time...sometimes -and the fighter knows- the last place he should be at the wrong time is in a boxing ring...if he was ready K-Pav would have fought, simple as that...he wasnt right for whatever reason...I love a good fiht like the next man but if a guy feels like he is ready then who are we to push him into it nyway????
                There's also a business side to it, you should know that being a former fighter. When I made a fight, I knew if I was ready at the time the fight was agreed on.

                Anything short of injury, there's really no excuse. If your not happy with the money, clauses in the contract, then don't sign the fight.

                It's much worse when the venue is set, the money is set and then 1 week prior, you decide you don't want to do it.

                I hear what you are saying but I can't side with Pavlik on this one, he's a professional and he should conduct himself that way.

                Alfredo Angulo had a reported 102 degree temperature the night before he fought Cintron, he didn't make and excuse and went out there against his better judgment.

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                • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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                  yea, but the thing is we dont REALLY know why Pavlick pulled out of the fight...think about it, SOMETHING was going on that he felt was enough to make him not fight..fighters generally LOVE to fight, they cant wait to get in the ring...so for him to suddenly say no? Theres a REASON...

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                  • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                    #10
                    I understand that and knowing his past alcohol troubles it makes you think if he has some sort of depression issues or addiction issues.

                    The bottom line is, you can't renig on your contract obligations. It's not like this is the first time Pavlik has done thins, it's actually his 5th time pulling this on promoters.

                    He is running the risk of black balling himself by the boxing community.

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