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Originally posted by DominiBox View Posthaha.. The thing here is that if they don't come up with the "Can't train in Phillipines ****"....There will be NO problem. So i don't see anybody ducking here !!
OSTD = agreed
Can't train in the Phillipines = If this comes out from Mayweather's camp...he's officially ducking Manny Pacquiao. Officially a pu$$y, *****, chicken.... and all those things we suspect he IS.
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Originally posted by Gino Ros View PostYeah, yeah.
And the reason that he asked Shane and Ortiz to take the tests is as a huge, elaborate smokescreen because he knew that he couldn't ask manny to take them while not asking anyone else.
Right?
What's up Gina?
Getting excited again ha girl?
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Originally posted by BoZz View Postthe only place pac wants to fight is the courtroom.
we've heard it all by now..fear of needles,asking for a 10 million dollar fine,needs a 2 week gap,needs a 1 week gap,then he only needs 3 days..then he files a lawsuit,then he supposedly agrees to the test,then comes back a month later says;he doesn't trust the USADA....
and those things are not made up those are all pacs statements..you can go and check..
and now you tell me..how bad does this man want to fight???
Floyd's FATHER says something... naah...
all Pacquiao said was he needed a cutoff, then later changed that and said he's agreed to full testing. Pac has recently hired VisionQwest which means he's probably now questioning Arum and TR with regards to his finances. Also, Koncz (another source of "Pac's statements"), i think, almost got fired or got demoted.
This can only be good for the fight. And before someone calls me a "*******", I'm a fan of both the Pacman and PBF. I just like to get my facts straight.
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Originally posted by Gino Ros View PostYeah, yeah.
And the reason that he asked Shane and Ortiz to take the tests is as a huge, elaborate smokescreen because he knew that he couldn't ask manny to take them while not asking anyone else.
Right?
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Originally posted by Brother Jay View PostIts official.
Manny Pacquiao is a coward and Bob Arum is protecting his fighter from any real competition.
Its bad enough that Pacquiao's last 6 opponents have ALL been coming off the biggest losses of their careers and that Pacquiao has used catchweights to make a case for being a dominant pseudo-WW, but now when Pacquiao is presented with a clear cut opportunity to show the world that he can stand and deliver against the best boxer in the world, he and his promoter come up with **** like "Well, Mayweather's dad made a comment ... and we didn't like it".
Since when does Mayweather Sr make career decisions for Floyd? Name ONE TIME. If you don't hear it from Floyd Jr, then its no official. Its a spin meant to remove blame from the party that is still refusing to sign the contract.
Since 2009, All of what Floyd Mayweather asked for was on the table. There's nothing new. Floyd lived up to all of Pacquiao's demands.
When a boxer keeps changing his demands to make a fight more difficult to make, you know he's stalling or he doesn't want the fight at all.
Everything from fear of needles, to claims of USADA being prejudiced to internal financial problems in the Pacquiao camp has been used o stall this fight.
Keep in mind, from the beginning of negotiations, USADA testing was Team Mayweather's original demand. Once Pacquiao agreed to what he claims was "ALL of Floyd's demands", there should have been NOTHING standing in the way of a contract signed by both parties.
Yet, Manny will NOT sign the contract. Manny is about to fight a man he's fought twice already 2 divisions below where he's currently campaigning. Now he's making Marquez come up in weight despite claims by Arum that 'Manny is sooooooo small and can't go up any higher to make 147 or 150lbs".
This is fcuking shameful. And quite frankly, I can't see an honest boxing fan that wouldn't be tired of this ****.
History will show Pacquiao as a media creation who used his supposed "too small stature" as a crutch rather than him being the "little conqueror" that Arum paints him out to be. Pacquiao is ONLY 2 inches shorter than Floyd and Mosley. Yet the man asks for every advantage possible.
When Floyd fought DLH, did Floyd ask him to come down in weight? No. DLH came in 170lbs+ and Floyd manned up and won the fight. When Roy Jones went up to HW, did he ask Ruiz to come down to 205lbs? No. Roy manned up and just won the damn fight.
Why the special conditions for Pacquiao? Is it because he's Asian? Does being Asian automatically imply that he's little and needs extra help and considerations? Is that why the most popular ******* argument has been "C'mon. He's a little guy beating bigger guys. You gotta cut him some slack."
I don't think so because as far as I know, Donaire has NEVER tried to play those games. He comes to fight and he wins without catchweights or stipulating how big his opponents can walk into the ring.
Its not an Asian thing. Its a Pacquiao thing.
Real champions don't need to be "cut slack". Real champions don't fight 5th ranked fighters to make a case for being #1. Real champions don't compete for 5 different vacant titles to make a legacy of greatness.
Pacquiao has his chance to shine, but like always he avoids the REAL challenges and settles for padding his record with BIG NAMES rather than real substance.
Now ... is this my opinion, or is Pacquiao currently still creating new demands in 2011 when all of his demands were on the table and met by Floyd in 2009?
Is that an opinion or a fact?
Has Floyd created any new demand that wasn't in the original negotiations?
Its time to start dealing with facts and leave the fiction to Stan Lee. Pacman ain't no superhero, and he sure as hell ain't taking the boxing world by storm by fighting 4th and 5th ranked BIG NAMED fighters at catchweights.
Has anyone even bothered to mention that Pacquiao may be stalling this megafight with Floyd Mayweather in an effort to squeeze as many lesser fights in before he mans up in order to go out with a ****?
If that's the case, then why not just say so??!?! That's clearly what's happening. And the longer Pacquiao stalls, the older Mayweather is getting. The older Mayweather gets, the more likely that he will lose his prime abilities.
I said it before:
Its official. Manny Pacquiao is a coward and Bob Arum is protecting his fighter from any real competition.
Hatton: coming from victories over Lazcano and Malignaggi
Cotto: victories over Jennings and Clottey (top welter)
Clottey: coming from a close loss to Cotto in a great fight
Mosley: coming from a loss and a draw
Margarito: coming from a victory over Roberto Garcia
De la Hoya: coming from a victory over Forbes.
......................... So it's clear that your argument "Its bad enough that Pacquiao's last 6 opponents have ALL been coming off the biggest losses of their careers" is all bull**** !!
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ITS OFFICIAL .... YOUR AN IDIOT! You just wasted so much time blabbing about dumb sh** pacquiao is the greatest fighter there is rigt now and so is Floyd, they will fight, just more drama for the build up end of storyOriginally posted by Brother Jay View PostIts official.
Manny Pacquiao is a coward and Bob Arum is protecting his fighter from any real competition.
Its bad enough that Pacquiao's last 6 opponents have ALL been coming off the biggest losses of their careers and that Pacquiao has used catchweights to make a case for being a dominant pseudo-WW, but now when Pacquiao is presented with a clear cut opportunity to show the world that he can stand and deliver against the best boxer in the world, he and his promoter come up with **** like "Well, Mayweather's dad made a comment ... and we didn't like it".
Since when does Mayweather Sr make career decisions for Floyd? Name ONE TIME. If you don't hear it from Floyd Jr, then its no official. Its a spin meant to remove blame from the party that is still refusing to sign the contract.
Since 2009, All of what Floyd Mayweather asked for was on the table. There's nothing new. Floyd lived up to all of Pacquiao's demands.
When a boxer keeps changing his demands to make a fight more difficult to make, you know he's stalling or he doesn't want the fight at all.
Everything from fear of needles, to claims of USADA being prejudiced to internal financial problems in the Pacquiao camp has been used o stall this fight.
Keep in mind, from the beginning of negotiations, USADA testing was Team Mayweather's original demand. Once Pacquiao agreed to what he claims was "ALL of Floyd's demands", there should have been NOTHING standing in the way of a contract signed by both parties.
Yet, Manny will NOT sign the contract. Manny is about to fight a man he's fought twice already 2 divisions below where he's currently campaigning. Now he's making Marquez come up in weight despite claims by Arum that 'Manny is sooooooo small and can't go up any higher to make 147 or 150lbs".
This is fcuking shameful. And quite frankly, I can't see an honest boxing fan that wouldn't be tired of this ****.
History will show Pacquiao as a media creation who used his supposed "too small stature" as a crutch rather than him being the "little conqueror" that Arum paints him out to be. Pacquiao is ONLY 2 inches shorter than Floyd and Mosley. Yet the man asks for every advantage possible.
When Floyd fought DLH, did Floyd ask him to come down in weight? No. DLH came in 170lbs+ and Floyd manned up and won the fight. When Roy Jones went up to HW, did he ask Ruiz to come down to 205lbs? No. Roy manned up and just won the damn fight.
Why the special conditions for Pacquiao? Is it because he's Asian? Does being Asian automatically imply that he's little and needs extra help and considerations? Is that why the most popular ******* argument has been "C'mon. He's a little guy beating bigger guys. You gotta cut him some slack."
I don't think so because as far as I know, Donaire has NEVER tried to play those games. He comes to fight and he wins without catchweights or stipulating how big his opponents can walk into the ring.
Its not an Asian thing. Its a Pacquiao thing.
Real champions don't need to be "cut slack". Real champions don't fight 5th ranked fighters to make a case for being #1. Real champions don't compete for 5 different vacant titles to make a legacy of greatness.
Pacquiao has his chance to shine, but like always he avoids the REAL challenges and settles for padding his record with BIG NAMES rather than real substance.
Now ... is this my opinion, or is Pacquiao currently still creating new demands in 2011 when all of his demands were on the table and met by Floyd in 2009?
Is that an opinion or a fact?
Has Floyd created any new demand that wasn't in the original negotiations?
Its time to start dealing with facts and leave the fiction to Stan Lee. Pacman ain't no superhero, and he sure as hell ain't taking the boxing world by storm by fighting 4th and 5th ranked BIG NAMED fighters at catchweights.
Has anyone even bothered to mention that Pacquiao may be stalling this megafight with Floyd Mayweather in an effort to squeeze as many lesser fights in before he mans up in order to go out with a ****?
If that's the case, then why not just say so??!?! That's clearly what's happening. And the longer Pacquiao stalls, the older Mayweather is getting. The older Mayweather gets, the more likely that he will lose his prime abilities.
I said it before:
Its official. Manny Pacquiao is a coward and Bob Arum is protecting his fighter from any real competition.
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Originally posted by midboss View Postarum says something... Pac's statements...
Floyd's father says something... Naah...
All pacquiao said was he needed a cutoff, then later changed that and said he's agreed to full testing. Pac has recently hired visionqwest which means he's probably now questioning arum and tr with regards to his finances. Also, koncz (another source of "pac's statements"), i think, almost got fired or got demoted.
This can only be good for the fight. And before someone calls me a "*******", i'm a fan of both the pacman and pbf. I just like to get my facts straight.
But facts are pac needed a cutoff because blood drawn made him weak, and ****
he stated and lied that he agreed to teh demands of fmj... This was a lie as he recently needed x7 days...
Again pac isnt some fool, he knows he and arum have lied.
Remember how it was floyds fault, the count down clock and ****??
Did manny the congressman come out and state the truth then?? Nope....
He still hadnt agreed to everything even though he saw what arum stated......
pac is a liar... Now thats a fact, and at the very least hes dishonest....
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