Neither Ortiz or Khan will be defined by their losses.

[dannyl15]

I saw next to no one hyping Berto up to be the next best thing on this forum before that fight. Did you? I can't think of any boxing forum/website that was hyping Berto up before he lost to Ortiz. No one thought Berto was anything special.

You smoking crack rock? Berto was hyped up and was supposed to be one of the top guys that PACQUIAO apparently ducked. It just so happened he failed to impress a lot of us on NSB.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

You smoking crack rock? Berto was hyped up and was supposed to be one of the top guys that PACQUIAO apparently ducked. It just so happened he failed to impress a lot of us on NSB.

Thank you, it's funny how things are forgotten in one fight. Vegas had him 2-1 odds, they gave no respect to Ortiz.

[brick wall]

that's too obvious i think...wins are the defining moments in a fighter's career not losses.

[Bushbaby]

I agree, both came back with greater wins than their losses. Khan has unified 140 & Ortiz toppled the favorite to become a champion & 2nd best welterweight on the planet, period.

[ts33]

I agree, both came back with greater wins than their losses. Khan has unified 140 & Ortiz toppled the favorite to become a champion & 2nd best welterweight on the planet, period.

Third ....

[Bushbaby]

Third ....

Now that Floyd is back,but when he won, he became 2nd correct?

[Gino Ros]

So you haters can *** off. You can bring up Khan being KO'd and Ortiz quitting but neither of these world class fighters will be remembered by these fights.

You haters can keep bringing them up time and time again, but in the end, they won't matter. Just like the dumbasses bring up Pac getting KO'd to the body or Mayweather being beat by Castillo, those are but footnotes in the history book of these men.

Bunch of ***in hatin ass b1tches in this place who have never boxed, or probably gotten off the couch in years.

In all fairness, of the four fighters you named, who was the only one that sought an immediate rematch?

I like that Lennox Lewis went and rematched the guys who beat him.

[BoxingFollower]

Now that Floyd is back,but when he won, he became 2nd correct?

Right, so Khan and Ortiz are comeback stories.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Different circumstances...

What people will remember is that Khan, despite Khan getting knocked out against a mediocre opponent in the first round...made a strong attempt at getting up, despite not having anything left. This proved he had heart...

Ortiz, whether we like it or not embarrassed himself, especially with what he had to say after the fight. He quit...

[J-H]

You drunk or something?

Isn't Ortiz that guy who quit against Maidana and is going to be even more known for the guy who got destroyed by Floyd Mayweather Jr.?

So just throw the Berto fight out of the window then? LOL

Let me guess, we all knew Berto was a bum right? wink, wink......

Actually yes. I knew Berto was garbage.

Here's a thread I made in December.

Who is the hell is he??

I'm so damn sick and tired of this guy. He's 27 years old and he hasn't done shit.

Berto's only accomplishment is being floated around as a name for a potential fight with an elite fighter.

Everytime people are discrediting someone else's opponent, the first thing they say is he should fight Andre ******** instead.

I hate fantasy fight threads with Andre ******** against elite fighters.

He's a fucking nobody! I wish he'd go away.




I'd like to give a special fuck you to the following:

Bill Clancy

Larry Ingle

Gary Ritter

Had these morons scored the Collazo fight correctly we wouldn't be hearing about Andre ********.

Dude sucks and Ortiz is a quitter.