Comments Thread For: Arum: Pavlik-Bute Was 60-40, The Kessler Info is False

[fastblack]

Arum did his job. Cameron did his job. top rank supported pavlik all the way thru rehab and stood there behind him. sad to see this happen.

[The Devil]

Kelly is not sober yet. I personally saw him in a tattoo shop about a month ago getting a lot of work done and he was anything but sober. He just needs to get his sobriety together first because mentally he's still not ready.

[PeterinMI]

I don't agree with Pavlik's decision, but I guarantee some hypocritical fans who support mayweather's decision to not fight for less money than he "feels he deserves" are the ones who blast on Pavlik the most. Also, Kessler probably had lucrative tv contracts from Denmark, that is where that 3.5 million was coming from.

Ufor the first time I can recall I 100% agree with Arum. Not sure why you needed to bring Mayweather intonthis honestly. Pulling out a few days before a fight based on a rumor is a douche move period.

[Easy-E]

I don't agree with Pavlik's decision, but I guarantee some hypocritical fans who support mayweather's decision to not fight for less money than he "feels he deserves" are the ones who blast on Pavlik the most. Also, Kessler probably had lucrative tv contracts from Denmark, that is where that 3.5 million was coming from.

are you honestly comparing Pavlik to Floyd?

How many ppv fights has pavlik had? How many times have his buys exceeded 1 million? How many belts in how many divisions has Pavlik won? How many losses does Pavlik have? How many 24/7's has Pavlik been featured in? How many promotional tours has Pavlik been on? How many record setting PPV's has Pavlik been a part of? How many times has Pavlik earned more than 1 million dollars for a fight? How about 5 million for a fight? 10?


Dude...just stop.

[TaurusJ27]

I suppose pavlik will have a response to arum's statement by the end of the week.

[big_james10]

I don't agree with Pavlik's decision, but I guarantee some hypocritical fans who support mayweather's decision to not fight for less money than he "feels he deserves" are the ones who blast on Pavlik the most. Also, Kessler probably had lucrative tv contracts from Denmark, that is where that 3.5 million was coming from.

Hypocritical fan here! I am blasting on Pavlik. He spent a brief amount of time as the top middleweight in the world before he self-destructed and is now trying to make a comeback after losing to Sergio Martinez two fights earlier and winning a decision against a journeyman in his last fight. He cancels a fight less than a week before the fight is scheduled to take place. The contract has already been signed, tickets have already been sold, and this clown decides that he won't fight because he is pissed off because another fighter who is more highly regarded and sells more tickets allegedly was going to be paid money for the Bute fight than Pavlik was.

....compared to Mayweather, who...

Chose to retire instead of accepting less money than Oscar De La Hoya for a rematch after their first fight sold a record-breaking 2.4 million PPVs, for which Mayweather was at least half if not mostly responsible for (prior to the Mayweather fight, Oscar had only exceeded 1 million PPVs twice - against Felix Trinidad and Bernard Hopkins)


There is no comparison, dip****, and if you can't see that, you have your head buried in the sand deeper than Kelly Pavlik.....

[LeadUppercut]

how can u compare mayweather and Pavlik. When has Maywethare agreed to a fight AND THEN backed out after agreeing. I dont remembr that ever happening.

and 3 1/2 mil for Kessler IS ridiculous. when do fighters (other than fights involving Klitchkos, Pac and Mayweather) ever make 3-4 mil. not that often - especially for a fighter like Kessler or Pavlik who isn't even top 3 in their own weight class

I never suggested that Mayweather had ever done that, but it is obvious that he would never accept short money, and he would never accept less than he felt he deserved.

Neither Pavlik nor Bradley are in his position, but I was just interested to hear that posters opinion on the recent issue with Bradley and how it relates to the decision that Pavlik just made.

Again, I do not consider Pavlik to be in the position that Bradley is in right now either, just interested to hear, thats all.

And I dont believe the 3.5mil for Kessler, it just doesnt sound right.

My point is based around the "willingness" of many boxing fans to completely ignore the business aspect of the sport, just because it suited them to do so, today.

Bradley is convinced that he is next in line for Pac, but Pavlik does not have too many options at all..... it sounded like a good deal, not sure whats up with Kelly. He dont have too many chances left I imagine.

[LeadUppercut]

Arum did his job. Cameron did his job. top rank supported pavlik all the way thru rehab and stood there behind him. sad to see this happen.

Cant argue with that, unfortunately.

How many chances does Kelly have left ?

[LeadUppercut]

Kelly is not sober yet. I personally saw him in a tattoo shop about a month ago getting a lot of work done and he was anything but sober. He just needs to get his sobriety together first because mentally he's still not ready.

Aaah ok, interesting. Also, remember the recent fight with his brother?

I would have thought that it was highly unlikely for a family situation to escalate to that extent, without alcohol being a contributing factor.

You are probably right, damn what a waste.

[LeadUppercut]

Did everyone see this post ?

Originally Posted by The Devil

Kelly is not sober yet. I personally saw him in a tattoo shop about a month ago getting a lot of work done and he was anything but sober. He just needs to get his sobriety together first because mentally he's still not ready.