This is a toss up between Hopkins and Jones, but i voted for Hopkins. Most notably, the fine floks across the pond are the biggest haters of both these fighters, claiming they ducked everyone.
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K....please do 1 big win at barely HW against the worst HW champ in history in the past 5 years and 3 loses 2 by devastating KO makees him better than a guy who has kept winning and being in good enough to stay in the weight class and dominate for so many years.Hunger was the difference RJJ never thought he could end up where he has....and Hopkins feels the same but for the better and will even more after he gets his revenge over Taylor.
Anyway, let's look at the last 7 years of Jones and Hopkins' careers and see why you are wrong in saying Hopkins had a better 7 years in that time.
In the last 7 years, Roy beat Tarver, Ruiz, Woods, Kelly, Gonzalez, Harmon, Harding, Hall, Telesco, Johnson, Frazier, Grant, Del Valle, and Hill.
Hopkins dring that time beat Eastman, DLH, Allen (3x), Joppy, Hakkar, Daniels, Tito, Holmes, Echols (2x), Vanderpool, and Brown.
Roy had good wins vs Ruiz, Tarver, Woods, Gonzalez, Harding, Johnson, Grant, Del Valle, and Hill.
Hopkins had good wins vs Eastman, DLH, Allen, Tito, Holmes, Echols, and Vanderpool.
Hopkins' biggest wins were versus guys significantly smaller than him. Roy's biggest wins were versus guys bigger than him. Basically, there's just no way you can say Hopkins' last 7 years were better than Roy's unless you are a Hopkins fan, which you must be since you admitted you've been a Roy hater and that you are rooting for Hopkins in the rematch.
Additionally, for you to base the last 7 years as better for Hopkins based on Jones' losses recently when he clearly should be retired is just flat out dumb. But, if you want to go that route I could argue Hopkins last 7 years are looking bad because he lost a to a green fighter in Taylor whereas Roy lost to a vet with skills and power. Also, Roy dominated 175 as easily as Hopkins dominated 160.
Basically, there is just no way you can say Hopkins' resume over that time is clearly better than Roy's.Comment
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vitali haters base their hate on ****** stuff like "oh he and his brother are gay, lewis kicked his ass, hes fought nobody but bums, hes inactive like hell" and theres no foundation to their hate.
its just ******.Comment
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Originally posted by TheEvilSaintvitali haters base their hate on ****** stuff like "oh he and his brother are gay, lewis kicked his ass, hes fought nobody but bums, hes inactive like hell" and theres no foundation to their hate.
its just ******.Comment
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I'd go with the Jones haters.
The ones who forget that the guy was unbeatable for a damn decade. The ones who see something like that written, & come up with so many ways to downgrade it.
It's a fact, though.
You can dislike him for his methods, in & out of the ring.....but in your heart(s) you know NONE of the guys you PRETEND would have beaten him, could have beaten him.
& I wouldn't even consider myself a fan of his.Comment
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Originally posted by Super_LightweightRuiz is not the worst HW in history but I wouldn't expect you to know that. He's not one of the better ones either, but he's still someone Hopkins wouldn't beat in all liklihood. It is also very doubtful Hopkins will get any revenge over Taylor. 3 years ago he woulda KO'd Taylor but now he is just too old, as was Jones in his recent fights.
Anyway, let's look at the last 7 years of Jones and Hopkins' careers and see why you are wrong in saying Hopkins had a better 7 years in that time.
In the last 7 years, Roy beat Tarver, Ruiz, Woods, Kelly, Gonzalez, Harmon, Harding, Hall, Telesco, Johnson, Frazier, Grant, Del Valle, and Hill.
Hopkins dring that time beat Eastman, DLH, Allen (3x), Joppy, Hakkar, Daniels, Tito, Holmes, Echols (2x), Vanderpool, and Brown.
Roy had good wins vs Ruiz, Tarver, Woods, Gonzalez, Harding, Johnson, Grant, Del Valle, and Hill.
Hopkins had good wins vs Eastman, DLH, Allen, Tito, Holmes, Echols, and Vanderpool.
Hopkins' biggest wins were versus guys significantly smaller than him. Roy's biggest wins were versus guys bigger than him. Basically, there's just no way you can say Hopkins' last 7 years were better than Roy's unless you are a Hopkins fan, which you must be since you admitted you've been a Roy hater and that you are rooting for Hopkins in the rematch.
Additionally, for you to base the last 7 years as better for Hopkins based on Jones' losses recently when he clearly should be retired is just flat out dumb. But, if you want to go that route I could argue Hopkins last 7 years are looking bad because he lost a to a green fighter in Taylor whereas Roy lost to a vet with skills and power. Also, Roy dominated 175 as easily as Hopkins dominated 160.
Basically, there is just no way you can say Hopkins' resume over that time is clearly better than Roy's.Comment
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I'm not hating at all, dude. Ruiz is not the worst HW champ ever. The reason I said I don't expect you to know that is because most ppl of this generation just haven't seen all of the HW champs in order to know he is not the worst ever.
I'm not hating. I know my posts sound like I'm a **** sometimes but I'm just tellin you there's no way you can say Hops last 7 yrs were better than Roy's.
P.S. Hops wouldn't beat Roy's ass even if they fought now. Hops and Roy together makes a boring fight with no one's ass getting kicked.Comment
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Originally posted by Super_LightweightI'm not hating at all, dude. Ruiz is not the worst HW champ ever. The reason I said I don't expect you to know that is because most ppl of this generation just haven't seen all of the HW champs in order to know he is not the worst ever.
I'm not hating. I know my posts sound like I'm a **** sometimes but I'm just tellin you there's no way you can say Hops last 7 yrs were better than Roy's.
P.S. Hops wouldn't beat Roy's ass even if they fought now. Hops and Roy together makes a boring fight with no one's ass getting kicked.Comment
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