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  • Uncle Buck
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    #11
    Originally posted by Elotero
    There are enough good to great KO's happening, no one should have to die to boost the profile of boxing.

    Jesse Vargas, Ola Afolabi, Sasso are the most recent spectacular KO's I have seen. We need better more consistent cards, not tragedies.
    Maybe then, to avoid further tragedies, we could allow people who already have brain damage or mental illness to carry on fighting? Oh hold on, that already happens in the case of Evander Holyfield.

    I'm sure a Watson vs McClellan fight would draw record PPV figures, purely due to the curiousity factor of such a match up.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Uncle Buck
      Now I now this is a controversial issue. But I was in the pub with some current and past boxers yesterday and the topic of conversation turned to deaths/cabbagings in boxing, and whether in fact another boxer being pummelled into a coma would in fact be positive for the sport, especially considering viewing figures in comparison to the UFC. Some boxing fans would deny it in a public setting, but who didn't love the savage nature of the Benn vs McClellan fight? And who didn't have to suppress an attack of the giggles at the follow up videos showing just how damaging Benn's British bombs had been for the animal abusing American? It's those kind of nights that draw in new fans, not the recent snore fests that have masqueraded as world title 'fights'.

      I recently felt a bit lonely late at night, so I found Eubank vs Watson II on youtube, and took care of business whilst watching that staggering uppercut from Eubank that would send ultimately propel Watson body-popping over the London marathon finishing line several years later. It's those kind of moments that live long in the memory, and give boxing the mystique that keeps fans coming back for more. The tightening of the safety regulations and early stoppages by referees have only served to drive those same fans away. I personally would like to see the rules relaxed a little, so that boxers are allowed/forced to box on, provided they can stand up by their volition. That way you would be almost guaranteed a huge upsurge of spectacular KOs, and logic dictates that would ensure a huge leap in viewing figures. Although tragic for the cabbaged fighter and his family, they could at least take solace in the fact that their plight has furthered the sport.

      Would other true boxing fans accept the sacrifice of another American fighter to boost the flagging profile of our beloved sport?
      U must have loved the fight where the American was a beaten man after 4 rds, but he carried regardless refusing to quit, and his opponent slowly, sadistically, put a beating on him, but not enough to finish him, just enough to carry him until the 12 round, before he landed a shot in the final minute to send the yank to the hospital for the night.

      Personally i though Wlad v Chambers was a snoozefest though. But each to his own.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Uncle Buck
        Now I know this is a controversial issue. But I was in the pub with some current and past boxers yesterday and the topic of conversation turned to deaths/cabbagings in boxing, and whether in fact another boxer being pummelled into a coma would in fact be positive for the sport, especially considering viewing figures in comparison to the UFC. Some boxing fans would deny it in a public setting, but who didn't love the savage nature of the Benn vs McClellan fight? And who didn't have to suppress an attack of the giggles at the follow up videos showing just how damaging Benn's British bombs had been for the animal abusing American? It's those kind of nights that draw in new fans, not the recent snore fests that have masqueraded as world title 'fights'.

        I recently felt a bit lonely late at night, so I found Eubank vs Watson II on youtube, and took care of business whilst watching that staggering uppercut from Eubank that would send ultimately propel Watson body-popping over the London marathon finishing line several years later. It's those kind of moments that live long in the memory, and give boxing the mystique that keeps fans coming back for more. The tightening of the safety regulations and early stoppages by referees have only served to drive those same fans away. I personally would like to see the rules relaxed a little, so that boxers are allowed/forced to box on, provided they can stand up by their volition. That way you would be almost guaranteed a huge upsurge of spectacular KOs, and logic dictates that would ensure a huge leap in viewing figures. Although tragic for the cabbaged fighter and his family, they could at least take solace in the fact that their plight has furthered the sport.

        Would other true boxing fans accept the sacrifice of another American fighter to boost the flagging profile of our beloved sport?
        guys this fat piece of **** has never had a fight in his life .how would he feel if you where near death would he have the same opinion i dont think so.i hate these people that call fighters cowards but have never been in a ring .just **** off

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        • Uncle Buck
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          #14
          It was a reasonable beating, but to call it 'sadistic' is seriously over-egging it. The reason the fight went on so long is directly linked to Wlad's robotic, repetitive style. He usually grinds his opponents down with the jab/right hand one-two, rather than ending it early with some flashy combination. If Chambers had visibly soiled himself in the 12th when the Doctor's bomb landed, then I would rate the fight far higher, but ultimately I would have to agree with your rather limited summary of the fight.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Uncle Buck
            I recently felt a bit lonely late at night, so I found Eubank vs Watson II on youtube, and took care of business whilst watching that staggering uppercut from Eubank that would send ultimately propel Watson body-popping over the London marathon finishing line several years later.
            Wow. I agree with the other posters that agreed that you are a sick ****. Twisted sense of humor lol.

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            • Uncle Buck
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              #16
              Originally posted by sugersean15
              guys this fat piece of **** has never had a fight in his life .how would he feel if you where near death would he have the same opinion i dont think so.i hate these people that call fighters cowards but have never been in a ring .just **** off
              You seem to have got yourself so worked up that you have entirely missed the point of my thread. If you want to call the G-Man a coward because he quit then perhaps you should start a separate thread in the forum? Thank you for your interest in my post though.

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                #17
                Early stoppages are irritating, but forcing a fighter to fight if he wants to quit is ******ed.. lmao! Also someone said it before "the ref has sometimes gotta save the fighter from himself" -> with the stoppage

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Uncle Buck
                  Now I know this is a controversial issue. But I was in the pub with some current and past boxers yesterday and the topic of conversation turned to deaths/cabbagings in boxing, and whether in fact another boxer being pummelled into a coma would in fact be positive for the sport, especially considering viewing figures in comparison to the UFC. Some boxing fans would deny it in a public setting, but who didn't love the savage nature of the Benn vs McClellan fight? And who didn't have to suppress an attack of the giggles at the follow up videos showing just how damaging Benn's British bombs had been for the animal abusing American? It's those kind of nights that draw in new fans, not the recent snore fests that have masqueraded as world title 'fights'.

                  I recently felt a bit lonely late at night, so I found Eubank vs Watson II on youtube, and took care of business whilst watching that staggering uppercut from Eubank that would send ultimately propel Watson body-popping over the London marathon finishing line several years later. It's those kind of moments that live long in the memory, and give boxing the mystique that keeps fans coming back for more. The tightening of the safety regulations and early stoppages by referees have only served to drive those same fans away. I personally would like to see the rules relaxed a little, so that boxers are allowed/forced to box on, provided they can stand up by their volition. That way you would be almost guaranteed a huge upsurge of spectacular KOs, and logic dictates that would ensure a huge leap in viewing figures. Although tragic for the cabbaged fighter and his family, they could at least take solace in the fact that their plight has furthered the sport.

                  Would other true boxing fans accept the sacrifice of another American fighter to boost the flagging profile of our beloved sport?
                  You're an idiot.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Uncle Buck
                    Now I know this is a controversial issue. But I was in the pub with some current and past boxers yesterday and the topic of conversation turned to deaths/cabbagings in boxing, and whether in fact another boxer being pummelled into a coma would in fact be positive for the sport, especially considering viewing figures in comparison to the UFC. Some boxing fans would deny it in a public setting, but who didn't love the savage nature of the Benn vs McClellan fight? And who didn't have to suppress an attack of the giggles at the follow up videos showing just how damaging Benn's British bombs had been for the animal abusing American? It's those kind of nights that draw in new fans, not the recent snore fests that have masqueraded as world title 'fights'.

                    I recently felt a bit lonely late at night, so I found Eubank vs Watson II on youtube, and took care of business whilst watching that staggering uppercut from Eubank that would send ultimately propel Watson body-popping over the London marathon finishing line several years later. It's those kind of moments that live long in the memory, and give boxing the mystique that keeps fans coming back for more. The tightening of the safety regulations and early stoppages by referees have only served to drive those same fans away. I personally would like to see the rules relaxed a little, so that boxers are allowed/forced to box on, provided they can stand up by their volition. That way you would be almost guaranteed a huge upsurge of spectacular KOs, and logic dictates that would ensure a huge leap in viewing figures. Although tragic for the cabbaged fighter and his family, they could at least take solace in the fact that their plight has furthered the sport.

                    Would other true boxing fans accept the sacrifice of another American fighter to boost the flagging profile of our beloved sport?
                    a sacrifice?

                    why don't you ask the sports commissions to give swords to the fighters?

                    more interesting huh?

                    life is more precious than gate receipts or ppvs.....

                    otherwise, you just want us to go back to theage of the gladiators...

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                    • chav
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                      #20
                      OH Lordy I just pissed myself with laughter....the last line had me near crying about sacrificing another American for the the good of the TV figures lol

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