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    by David P. Greisman - It would be so easy – indeed, it would be ideal – to take the latest sanctioning body drama as the proverbial last straw, to use the World Boxing Council’s most recent controversy as a cause célèbre, one that would push us to ignore these organizations and concentrate solely on the sport and the fighters themselves.

    The WBC has stripped Timothy Bradley of its junior-welterweight title, naming him a “Champion in Recess” while he sits on the sideline, having turned down a July fight with Amir Khan and gotten sued by his promoters for doing so. Bradley earned the belt in January when he won a unification bout against Devon Alexander.

    That belt will instead soon belong either to Erik Morales or Jorge Barrios. Morales is a once-great fighter, a former three-division titlist now in decline. Still a warrior, he was competitive against the dangerous Marcos Maidana back in April but ultimately lost a majority decision. Barrios is a former 130-pound beltholder who last had that recognition five years ago, hasn’t had a notable win since and has no claim to the 140-pound division.

    Bradley should still have the WBC belt.

    A fight between Morales vs. Barrios, set for September, shouldn’t have that belt as a prize.

    And, as others have noted, there are others who’d already been promised a chance at the title, Ali Chebah and Ajose Olusegun, who are slated to fight that same month in an elimination bout.
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    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
    by David P. Greisman - It would be so easy – indeed, it would be ideal – to take the latest sanctioning body drama as the proverbial last straw, to use the World Boxing Council’s most recent controversy as a cause célèbre, one that would push us to ignore these organizations and concentrate solely on the sport and the fighters themselves......
    LMAO

    I posted this a couple of days ago.....

    Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
    Within the last month.....

    You all did the same thing to Canelo.

    You all did the same thing to Chavez.

    You all did the same thing to Bradley.

    Smarten up.

    Dont hate the playa, hate the game.

    WE NEED ONE BELT, and one global governing body !!

    Problem solved.

    We need a " New World Order " for boxing

    The sanctioning bodies are a total fkn joke, you " fans " who accept, therefore condone, therefore support them, are the cause of the problem.

    They have authority because you recognise them, without you, they would have no power at all.

    Many fighters have dumped their titles.

    You all ragged Canelo when he was handed a paper title, but few if any e-mailed Jose Sulaiman and called him a p1ece-of-****.

    Now you all expect him to defend that worthless crappy belt with his life when he has clearly only just emerged as a contender.

    You all ragged Chavez for not defending against Martinez.

    The Chavez Jnr fans found themselves in an indefensible position, they wanted to call their guy a champ, but did not want him to have to prove it.

    The same goes with Pac at 154, ooops, I mean..... 150.

    Titles are worthless.

    I think it is pretty obvious that Bradley thinks he is in line for a Pac payday.

    Now you all want to pull out the old "coward card" because Bradley will not defend his worthless title with his life, and selfishly just wants his payday

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    • #3
      Great article by the way, and **** on the money, thanks to the writer for that.

      I bet it hardly gets a fkn read

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      • #4
        Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
        Great article by the way, and **** on the money, thanks to the writer for that.

        I bet it hardly gets a fkn read
        It contains some tough vocabulary words and doesn't center around Pacquiao-Mayweather.

        So yeah, it will not be the 1000+ comment article it should be.

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        • #5
          I'm glad Greisman stepped up and said the things I've been saying all along; the sanctioning bodies aren't going anywhere.

          The sanctioning bodies do muddle the sport with their politics and blatant favoritism, but until an alternative is available to replace the marketing and financial benefits lost by removing the sanctioning bodies, the fighters will continue to seek the belts

          The bottom line is, the bottom line. Belts = $$$

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          • #6
            According from a very reliable source, Mayweather paid heaps of cash to the security guard and lawyers for a court settlement.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
              Great article by the way, and **** on the money, thanks to the writer for that.

              I bet it hardly gets a fkn read
              Tell Floyd to sign the contract get a needle and let's do it, idiot..

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              • #8
                Wow, it only took five posts before a ******* corrupted the thread. It had to be Komandante, he even makes the average ******* seem like a rocket scientist.

                Komandante, making ******s feel intelligent since 2008
                Last edited by Rapid Counter; 08-01-2011, 03:29 AM.

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                • #9
                  It has been one year -- Aug. 7, 2010 -- since a boxer rated in the WBC's top 10 at Super Lightweight has received a title shot (Andreas Kotelnik - who's rated #11 now). So you've got 10 contenders chomping at the bit ... some have been in line for years ... waiting for their shot. The WBC contacted Bradley about when he was going to defend repeatedly, and he never responded. His promoters are suing him, so he can't put a fight together. And all Bradley seems to want to do is move up in weight and fight Pacquiao (and Manny has zero interest in fighting him).

                  It's easy to bash sanctioning bodies, but seriously, what are they supposed to do if he doesn't want to defend and all these boxers are demanding to know when they'll get their turn? What about the fighters waiting for their shot ... and can't get it because Bradley has set his sights elsewhere? If fans aren't complaining about the sanctioning bodies removing a title, they are complaining because it's taking too long for their favorite fighter to get a title shot.

                  If Bradley just defended like he's supposed to, the problem would be solved. If he can't, then the organization has to do something or it's not fair to the guys waiting in line.

                  Hell, Bradley could've made a fortune this year just defending against "name" guys in the WBc's top 10, like Erik Morales, Lucas Matthysse, and Humberto Soto. The WBC basically set the table for him. But he wants a dream fight with Manny, and it just isn't going to happen.
                  Last edited by Dubblechin; 08-01-2011, 10:18 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Scumbag Parasite Sulaiman is known for doing SHADY S H I T like that(stripping fighters of their titles or declaring the official champion in some sort of status & having 2 other fighters fight for the official title & at least 1 of the fighters doesn't deserve the a shot) & somehow there's always a Mexican getting a shot at those titles, for example-->The late Edwin Valero was the official WBC lightweight world Champion & suffered a cut in a successful defense against Antonio Demarco, so Sulaiman declared Valero a "Champion in Recess"(when it was known that he could have easily defended that title in less than a year) & had Mexican Humberto "La Zorrita" Soto(who was WBC super featherweight champ at the time) fight UNRANKED ex champ David Díaz for Valero's title that was declared vacant & bumping fighters like Anthony Peterson(who was the WBC #1 contender at the time) among others in the top 10.. Then there was Segio Martinez who was the official WBC middleweight world champ(by beating then world champion Pavlik) that 1st was stripped & then Sulaiman changed Martinez's status to "Emeritus Champion" & that title(Emeritus) is given to someone that retires as a champion & note that Martinez has NEVER retired..& then Sulaiman LITERALLY GAVE the official world title to Sebastian Zbik(he didn't even have to fight for it) & then had mediocre Mexican Hype job Julio Cesar Chavez jr fight Sebastian Zbik for the official title..The funny thing is that Scumbag Sulaiman said that under "Emeritus" Status Martinez could fight the world champ at ANY time & now that Martinez has asked for him to be next for Chavez jr, the WBC has told him that he would have to wait a year because Chavez jr has 1 year to defend against a mandatory & as of right now he has the option to defend practically against anybody he chooses..& now this situation with Bradley that 1st he was stripped & now all of a sudden Bradley is a "Champion in Recess" & now Mexican ex champ Morales who after loosing to Maidana in his last fight is somehow ranked 3rd by the WBC is fighting UNRANKED Jorge Barrios for the WBC world title & Barrios hasn't fought in more than a year!!(ironically Maidana that beat Morales AIN'T even ranked in the top 15 by the WBC!) ALL THESE ORGANISM'S(WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO & THE REST) ARE FULL OF S H I T & LIKE THE LEECHES THEY ARE, THEY ARE ONLY GOOD FOR SUCKING OUT SANCTIONING FEES FROM THE FIGHTERS & FOR THE GOOD OF BOXING SHOULD DISAPPEAR!!! THERE SHOULD ONLY BE 1 WORLD CHAMP PER DIVISION!!Just like "The Ring" magazine has on their rankings..
                    Last edited by Tomasio; 08-01-2011, 10:52 AM.

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