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  • Bozo_no no
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    #21
    Originally posted by j
    never said wladimir is a complete shoe in, however, i certainly don't think it would be a replay of what happened in that first fight. damn, that was an odd fight. brewster never walked through wlad's punches. and in my opinion, brewster caught a lucky break. i don't see that happening again. perhaps, he was lucky the fight wasn't stopped. and remember when brewster swarmed wladimir in the opening of the first round? it didn't work.

    and i never count that golota fight. it may be feasible that golota took a dive. i wouldn't rule that out is what i'm saying. golota didn't look warmed up and looked way too passive. usually, golota does everything he can not to get beat, even if that means losing the fight.

    i wouldn't say he walked through krasniqi either. that didn't seem like an easy fight for lamon.
    Wow, that's a poor take.

    Brewster did walk through Wlad's shots (note what I said propperly), he has huge chin, and a lot of heart, and he hurt Wlad and followed up until it was stopped. Don't start in with the excuses and conspiricies. Brewster was the better man that night, and has been the better man since.

    Since then, Brewster looks much more confident, just as powerful, and is defintaly believeing in himself.

    Wlad looked just as breakable as ever agasinst Peter, and Brewster is a much more fluid puncher than Peter, and throws punches in bunches.

    Brewster has an EXCELLENT shot of blowing Wlad right out with the high he's on now after his last two fights.

    And WTF are you talking about you don't "count" the Golota fight?

    Those shots Brewster landed, which he came out throwing, were as real as it gets.

    Brewster is looking like a lion lately.

    He was very impressive in his fight with Krasniqi. I didn't say anything about him walking through Luan, I said he made some great adjustments and fought a great fight agaisnst a guy who is a very durable, talented, and strong chinned fighter.

    I couldn't disagree more with your take here.

    A Brewster rematch is a very dangerous fight for Wlad, and all I see is the same old Wlad fans talking like it's a formality for Wlad.
    Last edited by Bozo_no no; 10-10-2005, 05:18 PM.

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    • ejk22
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      #22
      Wlad has to and should fight him. Forget about Vitali. Vitali needs to beat Rahman and then go after the WBA winner.

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      • j
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        #23
        feel free to disagree. it doesn't bother me.

        but calling opinions poor doesn't sound to good. remember opinions aren't based on facts, so we're talking almost purely hypothetical.

        now, i didn't see wlad as being too breakable in the peter fight. taking those huge rabbit punches probably convinced some people that wlad is fragile. rabbit punches can mess with your balance, as well as blows to the ear. i've been through enough of that to recognize it. i've been on the recieving end and the giving end. i've trained martial arts for over ten years. i do know what i'm talking about.

        also, never said brewster didn't land punches against golota. i noted that golota didn't seem to want to fight. either that, or he just completely froze up.

        a brewster rematch for wladimir certainly wouldn't be a walk in the park, but in no way do i feel brewster would pitch a shut out.

        keep it civil. i have.

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        • Bozo_no no
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          #24
          Originally posted by j
          feel free to disagree. it doesn't bother me.

          but calling opinions poor doesn't sound to good. remember opinions aren't based on facts, so we're talking almost purely hypothetical.

          now, i didn't see wlad as being too breakable in the peter fight. taking those huge rabbit punches probably convinced some people that wlad is fragile. rabbit punches can mess with your balance, as well as blows to the ear. i've been through enough of that to recognize it. i've been on the recieving end and the giving end. i've trained martial arts for over ten years. i do know what i'm talking about.

          also, never said brewster didn't land punches against golota. i noted that golota didn't seem to want to fight. either that, or he just completely froze up.

          a brewster rematch for wladimir certainly wouldn't be a walk in the park, but in no way do i feel brewster would pitch a shut out.

          keep it civil. i have.

          I can't help that you are bothered by me thinking you have a poor take, but that's how I feel.

          You responded and misquoted me as saying Brewster walked through Wlad (when I said he walked through his offense) and that I said he walked through Krasniqi, which I never said at all.

          You also said you don't "count" his win over Golota.

          Golota gave two of the four current title holders hell, and Brewster destroyed him. Not giving him credit for that is weak imo. Brewster came out throwing those shot intending to take him out, and it did.

          Now, about Wlad in the Peter fight, he was hurt several times. And to chalk that up to "rabbit punches" is an excuse.

          Peter hit Wlad with shots on several occasions that took Wlad's legs away and had him stepping in imaginary holes.

          Wlad's punch resistance isn't very good, and he's succeptable to being stunned by big punchers.

          Brewster is a violent puncher, and after seeing his last few fights it's clear he's starting to realize that and he's looking VERY confident.

          I will agree the fight wouldn't be a walk in the park for either of them, but I'd take Brewster at this point. He has a lot of heart and chin, and is a vicious puncher. I think Brewster is a much better fighter now than he was two year ago.

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          • j
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            #25
            i'm not too bothered. just as long as it doesn't resort to petty name calling.

            looking back, i suppose i did misquote. i thought you meant something different.

            we can agree to disagree. if we agreed to everything, it would be a boring conversation, wouldn't it?

            i wouldn't say peter's rabbit punching is an excuse for anything. he did rabbit punch. it is quite noted that this is how he usually fight. i have 3 or 4 of his fights on tape myself. everyone from lamply to foreman, and reluctantly, merchant agreed to the rabbit punching. the good thing, is that wladimir admitted he needs more work, otherwise he wouldn't have been in a position where peter could throw those.

            imo, wlad needs to work on his transitions from punching mode to clinching mode. it makes him look awkward at times. he can be too hesitant also. i saw quite a few times where he should've punched instead of tying peter up.

            i do agree brewster is a better fighter too. i give him much credit. i just happen to favor wlad in the rematch. i see wlad building himself up again.

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            • beez721
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              #26
              Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
              Brewster has looked as serious as a heart attack in his last few fights.

              He's starting to believe in his power and knows the opportunity he has ahead.

              I think that's a very poor take to write him off like you just did.

              He walked through Wlad's fire and stopped him.

              He butchered Golota in 50 seconds who gave Byrd and Ruiz all kinds of trouble,

              and he made great adjustments in beating a very durable and talented Krasniqi.

              Wlad looked VERY shakey in with a very green and limited Peter.

              If that rematch happens, Brewster will be full of confidence and will go at Wlad from the get go.

              And believe me, if he stuns Wlad (which is VERY likely) he won't have the trouble the limited and plodding Peter had in following up.

              That rematch is a very even up fight, and there is NO WAY people should be talking like Wlad is a shoe in to win it.
              krasniqi is durable and talented? your kidding right? he's beaten no one in the top 10 and was knocked out by saleta who was destroyed by 40 yr old oliver mcall,,lol. krasniqi is a journeyman and brewster shouldnt have had that much trouble with him

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              • Bozo_no no
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                #27
                Originally posted by j

                i wouldn't say peter's rabbit punching is an excuse for anything. he did rabbit punch.

                And Wlad continually turned his head and body away from Peter while he was punching.

                The way he was stunned and on ***** street twice can't be simply chalked up to unfair punches.

                It's because Wlad is stunned easilly by big punchers.

                Brewster is just as viloent a puncher as Peter, only he's better conditioned, throws in bunches, can thow straights and hooks, has more heart and is much more experienced.

                I would call Wlad's last fight "building himself up again", but it's going to be a long process.

                If he gets right back in the ring with Brewster and is even 1/4 as much as over confident as some of his fans are on here that he'll simply do what he should have done the 1st time, he'll be in for a big suprize.

                Brewster is a very formidable opponent for him.

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                • BLOODSHED
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                  #28
                  no ones calling names. we just want brewster to KO wlad if they fight.
                  Originally posted by j
                  i'm not too bothered. just as long as it doesn't resort to petty name calling.

                  looking back, i suppose i did misquote. i thought you meant something different.

                  we can agree to disagree. if we agreed to everything, it would be a boring conversation, wouldn't it?

                  i wouldn't say peter's rabbit punching is an excuse for anything. he did rabbit punch. it is quite noted that this is how he usually fight. i have 3 or 4 of his fights on tape myself. everyone from lamply to foreman, and reluctantly, merchant agreed to the rabbit punching. the good thing, is that wladimir admitted he needs more work, otherwise he wouldn't have been in a position where peter could throw those.

                  imo, wlad needs to work on his transitions from punching mode to clinching mode. it makes him look awkward at times. he can be too hesitant also. i saw quite a few times where he should've punched instead of tying peter up.

                  i do agree brewster is a better fighter too. i give him much credit. i just happen to favor wlad in the rematch. i see wlad building himself up again.

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                  • beez721
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
                    Personally, if Vitali beats Rahman like he certianly should,

                    Vitali vs Brewster is the fight I want to see.

                    Brewster's last 4 wins are probably more solid (removing the Meehan snoozer) than any of the other title holders.

                    He stopped Wlad, and in his last two fights enihalted Golota and then wlaked through Krasniqi.

                    Brewster has shown and abundance of chin, heart and power.

                    He's exactly what the division needs right now, and if Vitali beats Rahman, that's the fight at Heavy I want to see.
                    he didnt exactly walk through krasniqi. he was losing the fight until he caught him late. he does have heart,,,a descent chin and a very good left hook but little else

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                    • RAESAAD
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by beez721
                      he didnt exactly walk through krasniqi. he was losing the fight until he caught him late. he does have heart,,,a descent chin and a very good left hook but little else
                      He is acting like Oneil Bell in that aspect but he is better than that I do believe.

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