Floyd Mayweather or Sergio Martinez: Who Deserves Pound-for-Pound Number 2?

[deuce_drop]

Nonito Donaire, until floyd makes his return, then my top ten will be:

Pac
Floyd
Donaire
Martinez
Hopkins
Marquez
Ward
Wlad
Froch
Khan

Yes I said Froch, f@ck off his resume is impressive. Dropped Bradley for being a hoecake. Wonjongkam, Segura, Vitali, and Gamboa all are on the fringe of being top ten, or should be top ten depending on who you ask.

yo nat, whats the skinny on bradley??? all i konw is he's on ice til he gets out from under shaw or comes to a compromise with him......

can you quantify a bit on it because all i know is what i've just mentioned.... and IMHO anything to get away from shaw is a good move and i support......

[BoxerDood]

Nonito Donaire, until floyd makes his return, then my top ten will be:

Pac
Floyd
Donaire
Martinez
Hopkins
Marquez
Ward
Wlad
Froch
Khan

Yes I said Froch, f@ck off his resume is impressive. Dropped Bradley for being a hoecake. Wonjongkam, Segura, Vitali, and Gamboa all are on the fringe of being top ten, or should be top ten depending on who you ask.

Two good wins can't put Donaire ahead of Martinez. Sidorenko and Montiel are his only good wins since early 2009. Martinez has fought and beaten Williams, Pavlik, Dzinziruk and technically Cintron since then. That's more impressive in my opinion. Now if Donaire had fought Moreno in May and knocked him out, I'd have him ahead of Martinez without a doubt.

[gauze]

I can understand Hopkins, but not Marquez. He still needs that defining win to be ahead of Martinez. Somebody like Guerrero or Rios. All of the guys he's beaten at lightweight have been beaten more impressively by someone else.

i think coming up from 130 and fighting guys like casamayor and juan diaz is better than going up to 160 to fight 54 pounders and a pavlik with lots of outta the ring issues. plus i think marquez clearly beat pacquiao in their 2nd fight.

i also would LOVE to know who beat casamayor and diaz more impressively considering he's the only one to knock them out. he was more impressive than casamayor against katsidis as well.

[FirePunch]

Lets not act ****** and blind

SERGIO DESERVES TO BE #1 OR #2 P4P ONLY A DELUSIONAL IDIOT WOULD THINK OTHERWISE

1. HE KNOCKED OUT KERMIT CINTRON
2. HE KNOCKED OUT PAUL WILLIAMS WHEN PAUL WAS THOUGH TO HAVE A IRON CHIN.
3. HE ABSOLUTELY BLOODIED AND PUMMELED PAVLIKS FACE WORSE THAN HOPKINS
4. HE KNOCKED OUT SERGEI WHO WAS A MUCH BIGGER MAN .


You would have to have serious mental problems to not give the man his due .


RIGHT NOW SERGIO IS P4P THE BADDEST MOFO IN BOXING .

I WOULDNT BE SUPRISED IF HE COULD WHOOP MAYWEATHER AND PACMAN BOTH AT THE SAME TIME LMAO....

[BoxerDood]

i think coming up from 130 and fighting guys like casamayor and juan diaz is better than going up to 160 to fight 54 pounders and a pavlik with lots of outta the ring issues. plus i think marquez clearly beat pacquiao in their 2nd fight.

i also would LOVE to know who beat casamayor and diaz more impressively considering he's the only one to knock them out. he was more impressive than casamayor against katsidis as well.

Santa Cruz, Malignaggi and Guerrero beat those guys more impressively. Even though they didn't knock them out, they pitched near shutouts, as opposed to Marquez who struggled before the KOs. Although somehow Santa Cruz got robbed after winning like 10 of 12 rounds lol that was a bigger robbery than Williams-Lara.

And I don't understand how Sergio was picking on smaller guys. He moved UP to fight Williams, and Pavlik was a natural MW. Dzinziruk is also about the same size as him. Sergiy is 6 feet tall, and walks around the same weight as Sergio.

[tangalog2200]

Martinez, but that's because of Floyd and Donaire's inactivity. If Donaire had fought Moreno in May and dominated, I'd have him at #2.

Floyd hasn't done anything in over a year, so that's really what puts Martinez ahead of him. He's beaten Pavlik, Williams and Dzinziruk in the time span it took Floyd to fight Mosley alone.

very good analysis.....

the question is would one floyd win be enough to push him up to #2?

and if nonito and serg also posted wins, then will it boil down to who won more convincingly and who had more quality opponents?

[Pacquiao'd]

pac has been fighting can. sergio is number 1when floyd comes back pacroid is p4p3

[DLT]

Floyd is #2 again with a normal Floyd win. You cant put that guy out the top 2 with his career or even his recent stuff. He's basically just like Jordan. You have to give certain guys that type of status. He's been too good for too long and he's fighting good guys. I dont care if he goes away for 5 years. If he comes back with a good win then he's in the top 2 along with the other guy who has that status. Sergio is below that level right now

[-GDS-]

If Floyd throughly beats Ortiz, then for me at least, he surplants Manny as number 1 P4P and WW. Manny's fights since Cotto really doesn't justify his supposed unassilable 1 P4P status.

[mathed]

Lets not act ****** and blind

SERGIO DESERVES TO BE #1 OR #2 P4P ONLY A DELUSIONAL IDIOT WOULD THINK OTHERWISE

1. HE KNOCKED OUT KERMIT CINTRON
2. HE KNOCKED OUT PAUL WILLIAMS WHEN PAUL WAS THOUGH TO HAVE A IRON CHIN.
3. HE ABSOLUTELY BLOODIED AND PUMMELED PAVLIKS FACE WORSE THAN HOPKINS
4. HE KNOCKED OUT SERGEI WHO WAS A MUCH BIGGER MAN .


You would have to have serious mental problems to not give the man his due .


RIGHT NOW SERGIO IS P4P THE BADDEST MOFO IN BOXING .

I WOULDNT BE SUPRISED IF HE COULD WHOOP MAYWEATHER AND PACMAN BOTH AT THE SAME TIME LMAO....

Not to mention, Sergei had never been down even once as an amateur or pro before the Martinez fight, Sergio dropped him 5 times