The current p4p list is a joke

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1)Sergio Martinez- What has he really done? He beat Williams who just lost to a 15-0 prospect and got undressed by Quintana.

Outside of that, what makes Martinez so great? Alex Bunema?

2)Mayweather- part time fighter who only fights old men and midgets with a name.

3)Pacquiao- Arum >> David Copperfield when it comes to optical illusions.

4)Donaire- fights one real fight in 5 years and leapfrogs into the top 5.



Wlad and Vitali fight everyone and destroy them yet they're not included. Wlad alone has 10+ streak going and its not good enough. Donaire has 1 fight and leapfrogs him. JMM has consistently beaten top rated opposition but Donaire leapfrogs him over one fight. Miguel Cotto fights everyone in the sport and gets no credit for it. Martinez beats a defenseless hbo hypejob and gets more credit.

This sport is so shady.

[BrickSquad]

1)Sergio Martinez- What has he really done? He beat Williams who just lost to a 15-0 prospect and got undressed by Quintana.

Outside of that, what makes Martinez so great? Alex Bunema?

2)Mayweather- part time fighter who only fights old men and midgets with a name.

3)Pacquiao- Arum >> David Copperfield when it comes to optical illusions.

4)Donaire- fights one real fight in 5 years and leapfrogs into the top 5.



Wlad and Vitali fight everyone and destroy them yet they're not included. Wlad alone has 10+ streak going and its not good enough. Donaire has 1 fight and leapfrogs him. JMM has consistently beaten top rated opposition but Donaire leapfrogs him over one fight. Miguel Cotto fights everyone in the sport and gets no credit for it. Martinez beats a defenseless hbo hypejob and gets more credit.

This sport is so shady.

Agree except for the mayweather part

[BoxingFollower]

Ummm, Mayweather who only fights old men and midgets??? Is there suppose to be someone 6ft tall in the Welterweight division for him to fight, or should he go up to light heavyweight or HW.

And Martinez does deserve to be number 1 P4P.

Miguel Cotto shouldn't be ranked higher than Pacquiao, but he should atlest be in the top 5 P4P. But atlest he is ranked the number 1 JMW.

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Whose p4p list is that?

Looks like garbage to me.

[RespekonMyName]

1)Sergio Martinez- What has he really done? He beat Williams who just lost to a 15-0 prospect and got undressed by Quintana.

Outside of that, what makes Martinez so great? Alex Bunema?

2)Mayweather- part time fighter who only fights old men and midgets with a name.

3)Pacquiao- Arum >> David Copperfield when it comes to optical illusions.

4)Donaire- fights one real fight in 5 years and leapfrogs into the top 5.



Wlad and Vitali fight everyone and destroy them yet they're not included. Wlad alone has 10+ streak going and its not good enough. Donaire has 1 fight and leapfrogs him. JMM has consistently beaten top rated opposition but Donaire leapfrogs him over one fight. Miguel Cotto fights everyone in the sport and gets no credit for it. Martinez beats a defenseless hbo hypejob and gets more credit.

This sport is so shady.

who's your top 5 pound-4-pound? check out my site. I have Wlad #3.

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Floyd deserves credit for the Ortiz fight though, its out of character for him to take on a live body.

I was frankly shocked by the decision. Ortiz will knock him out though, so his props will be short lived.

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The real issue here is Martinez. This guy gets so much hype for Williams, but has nothing else to speak of other than a loss to Margarito.

While we're at it, since when does beating Abregu and fighting a stinker with Devon Alexander make Bradley king of 140.

The division is frankly pretty weak.

Bradley-sucks
Maidana-good tv fighter but limited
Kotelnik- European
Alexander- hypejob
Matthysse - knocks you down but can't win you

Khan is starting to show some promise but even he's still very green.

I'm starting to get pissed off now.

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Ummm, Mayweather who only fights old men and midgets??? Is there suppose to be someone 6ft tall in the Welterweight division for him to fight, or should he go up to light heavyweight or HW.

And Martinez does deserve to be number 1 P4P.

Miguel Cotto shouldn't be ranked higher than Pacquiao, but he should atlest be in the top 5 P4P. But atlest he is ranked the number 1 JMW.

Cotto a top 5 P4P?! Who has he beaten recently? Top 5?

[BoxingFollower]

Cotto a top 5 P4P?! Who has he beaten recently? Top 5?

Well NOT top P4P...just a TOP 5 RANKED Welterweight. Or atlest JR. Middleweight

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Oh wait.

I just realized Martinez beat Kelly Pavlik. I've lost this battle.

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