Juanma really isn't that good

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    #21
    Originally posted by Shadows
    He hasn't looked very good since moving up to 126, IMO.

    His technique has regressed and he's looked awful clumsy and plodding at times.
    That is some weird ****, He HAD good technique but all of a sudden there he is throwing haymakers hoping to ko and that's it. I always thought that the worse thing to happen to that kid was for Trinidad to get close to him. Telling him he could ko anyone well, all juanma did was abandon whatever plan and discipline and go for that ko

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    • studentofthegam
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      #22
      Originally posted by ablindwatchmakr
      lol, Canelo and Rios will have their wake up calls soon enough. Yea Juanma has always seemed like a punching bag to me. People like him no matter what he does.
      Yep. Guys like that always have their day. Fun for me until its over. Puerto Rico is loyal and I can really appreciate that.

      Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut
      I had to hear people talk all this **** about what he(JuanMa) would do to Gamboa blah blah blah

      don't get me wrong JuanMa is still a very good fighter and I think he PROBABLY beats Salido in a rematch, but he still can't beat Gamboa...and BOB ARUM KNEW THAT which is why he never wanted to make that fight...had nothing to do with "BUILDING UP THE FIGHT" and it being "TOO EARLY"

      but I am a fan of JuanMa also and I think he will bounce back from his loss, might actually make him an even better fighter
      I always said Gamboa blows him out. Too fast. I have to disagree on Salido. Salido beats him 4 of 5. I wouldnt suggest Lopez fight him first. And I wouldnt be surprised if Salido is the favorite going in. There was nothing fluky about it. That was a country ass whoopin.

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      • Beater_of_ass
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        #23
        Juanma has good power and combinations, that's it. Its nowhere near enough to be a great fighter, his footwork is probably the worst in boxing aside from Maidana possibly. He has absolutely ZERO head movement and his defense is horrific. He could be a great fighter but I doubt it, if you degrade under the same trainer then you're never going to get better. For Mtagwa he was weight drained as **** and it showed in the fight. That being said Gamboa completely squashes him, within 5 or 6 rounds.

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        • CubanGuyNYC
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          #24
          Originally posted by studentofthegam
          I did think more of Juanma early on because he had more controlled agression. Now he seems a little more wide open. Cabs is useless and I always thought that.
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          He has regressed a bit but needs to sharpen up his basic skills and his defense for sure, plenty of talent and could still beat anyone at 126 potentially.
          I completely agree with the notion of "controlled aggression." I think what JuanMa needs an attitude adjustment. He's been prone to brawling in his last couple of fights and paid dearly for it against Salido. If he gets back to basics, Lopez is still a force at 126.

          Gamboa is my man. For a long time I wondered what the outcome of a bout between him and Lopez would be. Now that JuanMa lost to Salido, and Yuri's beaten Orlando, many more people seem convinced that "El Ciclon" murks Lopez. I'll admit that I'm more confident now that Yuri beats JuanMa, but nothing is ever that easy. Don't count Lopez out yet....

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          • Bermuda
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            #25
            juanma just doesn't have a great chin and it doesn't help that he doesn't have great defense either. all he really has is his power and his ability to put together nice and accurate combinations.
            Last edited by Bermuda; 07-29-2011, 07:12 PM.

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            • Mr. Fantastic
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              #26
              Lopez is an elite fighter. The thing that gets me though apart from ducking Cab and cherry picking some fights is that his stans make him out to be a god like Cotto. He should of fought Gamboa.

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                #27
                Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
                Says the guy with Paul Williams in his sig, lmao!!!



                i put paul in there right after he took a hellish beating from lara to honor him


                **** off



                your ******* still hurting from that hammering salido laid down?
                remember?
                when he SHOWED YOU WHAT HE WAS WORKIN WITH!!!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                  imo, hes not even as good as cotto. and ive never thought cotto was that great. so yea, hes good, but all he'll ever be is good. hes definitely not the next best thing as he was always being portrayed as. trinidad >>>>> cotto>>>>>>juanma

                  cotto's a hall of famer, though

                  not a first ballot guy like tito
                  but an eventual hall of famer

                  juanma has a ton of work to do
                  and he's a small guy moving up in weight getting closer to 30 (people who actually know the sport around here will tell you that a smaller man peaks early, and a smaller puncher peaks early, and a come forward and take punches type fighter peaks early)

                  yeah

                  juanma is largely done

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                    #29
                    I always said Juanma was a ko waiting to happen...Salido is trash and so is Mtagwa, he had no business getting his ass handed to him by those bums. I'm just glad this fight "building" crap blew up in that old greedy bastard(Arum)'s face. Hopefully it happens with that hype job named Chavez Jr next.

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                    • Bermuda
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                      #30
                      If juanma loses a rematch against salido then it's safe to say that he's most likely done. but if he beats salido and regains his FW belt then i think there's still hope.

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