How Does Bute Beat Dirrell?

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  • bojangles1987
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    #11
    Originally posted by Scary
    Decent matchup for Dirrell, but I think Bute would win this.

    Bute is fast and just as athletic as Dirrell, plus he punches way harder. Both men are pretty slick, but Dirrell is a fish in oil.
    Bute isn't as athletic or fast as Dirrell, where are you getting that from?

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    • Elotero
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      #12
      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
      this whole thread is a fail, except the topic. the OP is horribel.

      bute beats dirrel by landing big shots from the southpaw stance and putting pressure on dirrell. bute has fast hands, but not as fast of feet as dirrell.

      dirrell is damaged goods, the guy is coming off a BRAIN INJURY. he was already a bit jumpy, but bute's got a bigger punch at 168 than abe. and dirrell was falling all over the 1-2 times when abe actually came close to landing a bomb.


      pre abe dirrell, I would have favored over bute. not so much now. you haven't even seen dirrell fight since a ***n brain injury? what's wrong with you?
      This is true. You can't even begin to handicap this with any kind of favor towards Dirrell before seeing how he has recovered. For all we know he could be all jumpy like a late-career Terry Norris. You know, knees all shaking and **** when there aren't even punches being thrown.

      I will say though, if Dirrell is recovered, Bute should catch him before he gets any momentum.

      The Dirrell that fought Oganov vs the Bute that beat Librado Andrade the 2nd time would be a great match.

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      • Phenom
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        #13
        Dirrell schools him for 12 rounds

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        • Boxingtech718v2
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          #14
          He gets his corner to drench the mat in his corner then when Dirrell slips he goes for the KO.

          Queen Arthur already laid down the blueprint

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            #15
            It's ridiculous how people on this forum over-exaggerate Dirrell. Everyone seems to think he quits, just because he won by DQ. Also, everyone pretending that Abraham was about to knock Dirrell out or was about to get a stoppage is completely blind. It is THE most played out scenario on this entire forum.

            Let's cut to the chase. Bute has looked PHENOMINAL. But against who? Let's take a look, shall we?

            Jean Paul Mendy (whose career highlights consist of draw over Anthony Hanshaw, and a DQ win against Bika)
            Brian Magee (KO'd by Froch in 2006, hasn't accomplished much at all)
            Jesse Brinkley (KO'd by Quillin in 3)
            Edison Miranda (Claim to fame by breaking Abrahams jaw, and getting KO'd by anyone with power)
            Librado Andrade (a deeply flawed fighter)

            What do they all have in common? They are (majority) face-forward fighters. Bute wins on clever counter-punching against reckless aggression. None of these guys (maybe Mendy) have an ounce of boxing skill. Is Dirrell like any of these fighters? Has Bute ever fought someone with a sharp jab, hand speed, fluid combinations, snap, foot speed, stance switching, intelligence, etc? Not really. I think Bute's style feeds into Dirrells pretty well actually. Bute keeps that right hand down pretty low all too often. Any fighter with an ounce of speed can make him pay for that. I think any in-and-out fighter can get the best of Bute.

            Bute doesn't put his punches together all to well. Which is odd because he has a lot of speed. He's a one shot fighter, and if he throws more than one, it's because the first punch is probably a soft jab. He doesn't follow up very well either. there were so many chances in the Magee fight where he could have ended it very easily, yet he didn't full the trigger. My guess is because he's become a overly-cautious fighter in the early rounds. I mean, it's not a bad game-plan, but expect Dirrell to take over the early rounds and maybe discourage Bute from coming on later.

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            • Elotero
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              #16
              Originally posted by BG_Knocc_Out
              It's ridiculous how people on this forum over-exaggerate Dirrell. Everyone seems to think he quits, just because he won by DQ. Also, everyone pretending that Abraham was about to knock Dirrell out or was about to get a stoppage is completely blind. It is THE most played out scenario on this entire forum.

              Let's cut to the chase. Bute has looked PHENOMINAL. But against who? Let's take a look, shall we?

              Jean Paul Mendy (whose career highlights consist of draw over Anthony Hanshaw, and a DQ win against Bika)
              Brian Magee (KO'd by Froch in 2006, hasn't accomplished much at all)
              Jesse Brinkley (KO'd by Quillin in 3)
              Edison Miranda (Claim to fame by breaking Abrahams jaw, and getting KO'd by anyone with power)
              Librado Andrade (a deeply flawed fighter)

              What do they all have in common? They are (majority) face-forward fighters. Bute wins on clever counter-punching against reckless aggression. None of these guys (maybe Mendy) have an ounce of boxing skill. Is Dirrell like any of these fighters? Has Bute ever fought someone with a sharp jab, hand speed, fluid combinations, snap, foot speed, stance switching, intelligence, etc? Not really. I think Bute's style feeds into Dirrells pretty well actually. Bute keeps that right hand down pretty low all too often. Any fighter with an ounce of speed can make him pay for that. I think any in-and-out fighter can get the best of Bute.

              Bute doesn't put his punches together all to well. Which is odd because he has a lot of speed. He's a one shot fighter, and if he throws more than one, it's because the first punch is probably a soft jab. He doesn't follow up very well either. there were so many chances in the Magee fight where he could have ended it very easily, yet he didn't full the trigger. My guess is because he's become a overly-cautious fighter in the early rounds. I mean, it's not a bad game-plan, but expect Dirrell to take over the early rounds and maybe discourage Bute from coming on later.
              That's all well and good IF Dirrell didnt take time off for a brain injury.

              If you are a fan, you believe his story of having that injury, which is a serious one.

              If you are a hater (which I don't think you are) Then his story was false and he should be good to fight again with no ring rust and be just as capable.

              I can see you are a fan, but why not take into account his injury when you are handicapping? He hasn't even had a tuneup yet.

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              • Uturn
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                #17
                Dirrell wins IMO.

                Dirrell is underrated and will show how good he is once back.

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                • New England
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                  #18
                  he could catch him with something


                  dirrell doesn't fight for 3 mins of every round


                  and the last thing you want to sleep on is a powerful uppercut


                  dirrell goes to take one of those 10 second breaks (ie taking a knee in the middle of the fight) and gets clocked on the way down

                  game over


                  that being said i think bute is a bit of a one trick pony
                  and if he doesnt get his power punches going he's going ot get outboxed by a slickster like dirrell with some eye catching punches

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