i still put castillo in top 5, even before his fight yesterday.
Current pound for pound list
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He is the Undisputed Welterweight Champion of the World and is defending his title. I also think he is one of the most dominant fighters in the sport.Originally posted by CalabreseI like RunWithKnives list except for Judah. Why is he there? He's only beat Spinx and Spinx wasn't even a top 10 P4P, probably not even P4P 15.
Holds solid wins over:
Rafael Pineda
Chop Chop Corley
Omar Weis
Showtime Green
Junior Witter
Jan Bergman
Micky Ward
and the forementioned Spinks.
Spinks was a very good fighter also.
Micky Ward claims he is the best fighter he has ever faced. And is a shoe in for the best fighter on earth.
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Originally posted by Tito Fan 831 - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (34-0) Big wins: Corrales TKO10, Castillo UD twice.
2 - Winky Wright (49-3) Big wins: Trinidad UD, Mosley UD, Mosley MD
3 - Marco Antonio Barrera (61-4) Big wins: Morales UD, Morales MD, Hamed UD
4 - Manny Pacquiao (40-3-2) Big wins: Barrera TKO11
5 - Juan Manual Marquez (44-2-1) Big wins: Medina TKO7, Peden TKO10
6 - Jermain Taylor (24-0) Big wins: Hopkins SD
7 - Antonio Tarver (24-3) Big wins: Jones KO2, Jones UD
8 - Jose Luis Castillo (53-7-1) Big wins: Corrales KO4, Casamayor SD
9 - Bernard Hopkins (46-3-1) Big wins: Trinidad TKO12, De la Hoya KO9
10 - Diego Corrales (40-3) Big wins: Castillo TKO10, Casamayor SD
11 - Erik Morales (48-3) Big wins: Barrera SD, Pacquiao UD
12 - James Toney (69-4-2) Big wins: Holyfield TKO9, Jirov UD
13 - Ricky Hatton (39-0) Big wins: Tszyu TKO11
14 - Zab Judah (34-2) Big wins: Spinks TKO9
15 - Rafael Marquez (34-3) Big wins: Austin TKO8, Johnson TKO8
toney should be in everyone's top 10 and there is no argument there. Definition of pound for pound is that you can take that persons ability and skill and put him in anyweight class. So imagine featherweight toney. He would simply be one of the best in every division. He is true p4p materialComment
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This list is probably a lot what mine would look like. I love Pacquiao, but I would switch him and Morales. I know Morales is coming off a loss and Pacman a win, but I still think P4P he is the better fighter. Pacquiao is more exciting to me, but Morales is better rounded and more complete imo.Originally posted by RunWithKnives1. Mayweather
2. Hopkins
3. Wright
4. Barrera
5. Judah
6. Castillo
7. Pacquiao
8. Rafa Marquez
9. Erik Morales
10. Juan Manuel Marquez
Also, Judah might be a little high, but he's got a lot of skill and a lot of nice wins. In terms of the definition of P4P, you put Judah's skills in any div and he should succeed. Since his loss to Tszyu, he's been a more mature fighter. He's finishing guys off and he's fun to watch.
As for other lists, I haven't seen Oscar Larios' name around much. I think he's definetly top 15. It's harder to put him top 10, but around 15 he should be there. Great hand speed and combination skills. He's got 2 wins in wars against McCullough, Nedal Hussein and a TKO against Israel Vasquez. He's basically owned the 122 division for a while now.Comment
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Honestly, I think only Oscar de la hoya should be considered the best p4p in a recent list. Thats it. In order to be even in a p4p list you need to fight several quality boxers. You cant be on that list just cause you fight 1 or no GOOD boxers.Comment
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how the **** do you have Pacquiao ahead of Morales? Why the **** do you have JMM in the top 10? Barrera, Morales, and Pacquiao are all bottom feeders of the top 10 p4p, none of them should be in the top 5.Originally posted by Tito Fan 831 - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (34-0) Big wins: Corrales TKO10, Castillo UD twice.
2 - Winky Wright (49-3) Big wins: Trinidad UD, Mosley UD, Mosley MD
3 - Marco Antonio Barrera (61-4) Big wins: Morales UD, Morales MD, Hamed UD
4 - Manny Pacquiao (40-3-2) Big wins: Barrera TKO11
5 - Juan Manual Marquez (44-2-1) Big wins: Medina TKO7, Peden TKO10
6 - Jermain Taylor (24-0) Big wins: Hopkins SD
7 - Antonio Tarver (24-3) Big wins: Jones KO2, Jones UD
8 - Jose Luis Castillo (53-7-1) Big wins: Corrales KO4, Casamayor SD
9 - Bernard Hopkins (46-3-1) Big wins: Trinidad TKO12, De la Hoya KO9
10 - Diego Corrales (40-3) Big wins: Castillo TKO10, Casamayor SD
11 - Erik Morales (48-3) Big wins: Barrera SD, Pacquiao UD
12 - James Toney (69-4-2) Big wins: Holyfield TKO9, Jirov UD
13 - Ricky Hatton (39-0) Big wins: Tszyu TKO11
14 - Zab Judah (34-2) Big wins: Spinks TKO9
15 - Rafael Marquez (34-3) Big wins: Austin TKO8, Johnson TKO8
1. Mayweather
2. Wright
3. Taylor
4. Hatton
5. Tarver
6. Judah
7. Corrales
8. Castillo
9. Barrera
10. Morales
who cares beyond 10?Comment
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Anybody putting Hopkins above Taylor needs to stop posting on this site permanently. If you can't accept that Bernard lost, boy are you gonna be stuck when the real close decisions come around. I thought Taylor clearly won a close fight. You all just watch boxing another year or 2 and you will see the meaning of robbery, I guarantee that.Comment
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morlaes just lost to Zahir Raheem, thats whyOriginally posted by DiegoFuegohow the **** do you have Pacquiao ahead of Morales? Why the **** do you have JMM in the top 10? Barrera, Morales, and Pacquiao are all bottom feeders of the top 10 p4p, none of them should be in the top 5.
1. Mayweather
2. Wright
3. Taylor
4. Hatton
5. Tarver
6. Judah
7. Corrales
8. Castillo
9. Barrera
10. Morales
who cares beyond 10?
judah should not be 6
9 or 10 maybe
and as much as i hate to say it, castillo is rated above corralesComment
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