Will JMM Unify the Featherweight First Before Facing Pacman?

[tracylee]

tracy lee, that's how we are Pac Fans we don't expect manny to just win, we expect him to KO the other guy, be it JMM, MAB or EM, plus my unbiased opinion JMM will win on points if he manages to go the distance....

although I am totally convince that he will win by KO, these top guys are so good that only a few inches separates them, Manny's advantage is his left straight, during the Pac-JMM I fight after the 1st round pac lost his edge, he lost the sting, JMM adapted well and countered perfectly resulting in the draw...

Either I'm completely nut's or you just posted that JMM would win on pt's if it went the distance??? If thats not a typo, then I KNOW I'm debating with an objective fan for a change...and it's about time!
Like I said, I think JMM will fight smarter in the rematch and not get caught by that vicious left of Manny's ....or atleast not so many times.
I also believe that Pac doesnt want any part of Erik Morales (or shouldnt want!!)..he's just too much for Manny to handle. Hell, Morales is too much for just about anybody to handle..the only guy that really came close was Barrera, and that's questionable. They had a "hate" thing going on, so I dont think that just cause Manny beat MAB he can automatically compete with Morales.

[JOM'S]

Either I'm completely nut's or you just posted that JMM would win on pt's if it went the distance??? If thats not a typo, then I KNOW I'm debating with an objective fan for a change...and it's about time!
Like I said, I think JMM will fight smarter in the rematch and not get caught by that vicious left of Manny's ....or atleast not so many times.
I also believe that Pac doesnt want any part of Erik Morales (or shouldnt want!!)..he's just too much for Manny to handle. Hell, Morales is too much for just about anybody to handle..the only guy that really came close was Barrera, and that's questionable. They had a "hate" thing going on, so I dont think that just cause Manny beat MAB he can automatically compete with Morales.

Tracy, its not a typo, most of us Pac Fans at our site agrees on this, we give credit where credit is due, JMM is a technically sound fighter, and will fight a smarter fight, but I will bet all my moolah that he will taste canvas again come Pac-JMM II....

As for Morales, EM is Team Pacs main target, biggest fight out their for Pac and will take him on next year....

[tracylee]

Tracy, its not a typo, most of us Pac Fans at our site agrees on this, we give credit where credit is due, JMM is a technically sound fighter, and will fight a smarter fight, but I will bet all my moolah that he will taste canvas again come Pac-JMM II....

As for Morales, EM is Team Pacs main target, biggest fight out their for Pac and will take him on next year....

Good karma for you! ( that should help your pt's out a bit ) and I agree, JMM just might hit the canvas atleast once....but I bet all my moolah that it's only once . So, come fight night, you and I may have to work something out, huh?

[JOM'S]

Good karma for you! ( that should help your pt's out a bit ) and I agree, JMM just might hit the canvas atleast once....but I bet all my moolah that it's only once . So, come fight night, you and I may have to work something out, huh?

Agreed, I'm still saving on points, and come fight night I'll look for you, we just go for straight bets, OK...

[tracylee]

Agreed, I'm still saving on points, and come fight night I'll look for you, we just go for straight bets, OK...

You got it

[JOM'S]

You got it

Okey we have a deal, and thanks for the karma & points, more savings for the bet for me...

[tracylee]

Okey we have a deal, and thanks for the karma & points, more savings for the bet for me...

Youre welcome...although I though it would give you alot more than that!!

[JOM'S]

Youre welcome...although I though it would give you alot more than that!!

Thats more than enough...

OK Tracy I better be going, I'll look for you on Pac next big fight...

Thansk again....

[psychopath]

You dont have to beg...just say I'm wrong... ( I love that phrase....beg to differ!!!)
I saw him against Barrera, and I dont recall him "moving" around alot then either. I remember him beating the hell out of Marco who remeined stationary most of the night (big mistake) and paid the price for it.) Unless I'm completely remembering that fight wrong, that's what I saw. Manny had no need to move aroud much with MAB, he basically stormed into the ring and completely swarmed him! I didnt see much technique; but I saw much ass whipping. I hope it goes completely different in a rematch with Barrera too.
Back to JMM. I watched him take alot of serious, fight ending blows from Manny, and I also saw him get back up after each and every one of them. He learned quick (you gotta give him that) and there were no more of those knock downs after he started using the ring and his talent and I know ya'll hate it when some of us say this, but that doesnt make it not true. JMM completely out-boxed Manny after the early round drama was over and if it had gone 15 rd's he would have won a decision decisively.
Some keep predicting a knock out....healthy or not, Manny still had his power that night, and yet he never knocked JMM out. Why are you so convinced he will in the rematch? What makes you think JMM is just gonna stand there and give him that chance? He's way too good and too smart for that. If he survived the first 2 rds with Manny he will definately survive and prosper in the rematch. But, then again, that's just my opinion

No Tracy I don't want to sound rude . . . I can't tell you straight you are wrong because we are HYPOTHETIC here . . . that rematch hasn't hapened yet so everything are just our opinions

Anyway when I mentioned Pac's movement against MAB what I meant was his lateral upper body movement. . . bobling and weaving. You are right Pac didn't have to move that much because MAB wants to slug it out but was out punched. When Pac fought JMM he did it with square shoulder face front because he cannot do his usual positioning that makes avoid punches and gives him angles to throw his bombs. Manny still has his power that night? No Tracy, it was his killer left hand that was sprained and hurting that's why he cannot hurt JMM with it anymore.

Undeniably JMM really outboxed Pac from round 3 to 8 because of him being handicapped but Pac was able to rally back in the later rounds (9 to 12) to secure enough points to have won that fight. I'm not taking anything away from JMM, he did showed a great heart and tremendous counter punching skills but if he is smart to make adjustment in their second meeting expect Pac to do the same.

[m00ks]

Pac will beat JMM in their rematch. JMM couldnt hurt Pac with his best shots before and he won't be able to in the rematch. Freddie Roach and Pac just gotta find a more effective way and thee is alwyays a more effective way. He'll land that punch and it'll be fresh.