Top 15 P4P in 3 years

[SCtrojansbaby]

1. Andre Ward(after beating Froch, Bute and Martinez he begins to unify at 175)
2. Giovanni Segura
3. Brandon Rios
4. Wladimir Klitschko
5. Chad Dawson
6. Juan Manuel Lopez(beats Gamboa and Donaire)
7. Canelo Alvarez
8. Nonito Donaire
9. Sergio Martinez
10. Yuriorkis Gamboa
11. Nathan Cleverly
12. Ismayl Sillakh
13. Miguel Vasquez
14. Amir Khan
15. Abner Mares


Remember this is 3 years so if a fighter is not at least close to real title shot now then there is almost no chance you'll be ranked this high in just 3 years.

So leave off Frankie Gomez and guys like that

[SCtrojansbaby]

bump .

[fishman]

wow. no manny or floyd. Can't do that man and Im not a rabid fan of either but I am a boxing fan and they have to be on there. At least one of them will most likely still be boxing. If you have Vlad up there, then you gotta have at least one of them as he is up there in age as well, same for maravilla.

[New England]

juanma is done
he's not going to be a FW in 3 years bro
he's huge right now
he's going to be a LW, and with his style he wont have a prayer.


if i ventured a guess i'd say donaire will be at the top
he's got a style and power that will undoubtedly carry to FW

ward up top as well
pretty much a given
if he were a knockout puncher i'd be talking about him as the next great american fighter, and as it is he's already the best young fighter from the states


agree with segura if he can stay light. if a guy stops moving against segura he will get stopped to the body. period.

wladimir very well could be retired by then. if we think about it, unless big fights come along, he's beaten almost everybody else.


not sure canelo will be on that level
he looks to be shaping up into more of a superstar and action fighter than top tier p4p guy. he's just not fast or difficult to hit.


otherwise it looks like a solid list if sergio keeps fighting


and mares fights and loses to donaire as well


i'd also put mikey garcia in the top 20
the kid has the goods if he's willing to take the necessary steps

[SCtrojansbaby]

juanma is done
he's not going to be a FW in 3 years bro
he's huge right now
he's going to be a LW, and with his style he wont have a prayer.


if i ventured a guess i'd say donaire will be at the top
he's got a style and power that will undoubtedly carry to FW

ward up top as well
pretty much a given
if he were a knockout puncher i'd be talking about him as the next great american fighter, and as it is he's already the best young fighter from the states


agree with segura if he can stay light. if a guy stops moving against segura he will get stopped to the body. period.

wladimir very well could be retired by then. if we think about it, unless big fights come along, he's beaten almost everybody else.


not sure canelo will be on that level
he looks to be shaping up into more of a superstar and action fighter than top tier p4p guy. he's just not fast or difficult to hit.


otherwise it looks like a solid list if sergio keeps fighting


and mares fights and loses to donaire as well


i'd also put mikey garcia in the top 20
the kid has the goods if he's willing to take the necessary steps

I agree Juanma won't be a featherweight in 3 years but he isn't moving up until he beat Gamboa and Donaire first.

While Donaire best attribute is his technique his second best is his size he will have a lot trouble against Gamboa Donaire and maybe even Moreno. That and his chin has never been tested.

Canelo will get big fights so its pretty much a given that he'll be in the top 10. Oh and there are tons of P4P stars who weren't fast or hard to hit.

I think Wlad will stick around as the next wave of heavyweights come threw.

Segura is a beast I think he can move all the way up to Bantamweight without missing a beat

[jdigital1601]

[QUOTE=SCtrojansbaby;10910388]1. Andre Ward(after beating Froch, Bute and Martinez he begins to unify at 175)
2. Giovanni Segura
3. Brandon Rios
4. Wladimir Klitschko
5. Chad Dawson
6. Juan Manuel Lopez(beats Gamboa and Donaire)
7. Canelo Alvarez
8. Nonito Donaire
9. Sergio Martinez
10. Yuriorkis Gamboa
11. Nathan Cleverly
12. Ismayl Sillakh
13. Miguel Vasquez
14. Amir Khan
15. Abner Mares


Remember this is 3 years so if a fighter is not at least close to real title shot now then there is almost no chance you'll be ranked this high in just 3 years.

So leave off Frankie Gomez and guys like that[/QUOTE

Hate to say, BUT that is a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE list 3 years from now.

[fishman]

damn, i didnt even see juanma on there. He may not even get a chance to fight anyone unless he can beat salido. I just dont see him anywhere near that list, his best days may be behind him and not thats really saying all that much.

[SCtrojansbaby]

damn, i didnt even see juanma on there. He may not even get a chance to fight anyone unless he can beat salido. I just dont see him anywhere near that list, his best days may be behind him and not thats really saying all that much.

LOL Salido = Carlos Quintana. He'll get destroyed in a rematch

[DTanc]

I agree Juanma won't be a featherweight in 3 years but he isn't moving up until he beat Gamboa and Donaire first.

While Donaire best attribute is his technique his second best is his size he will have a lot trouble against Gamboa Donaire and maybe even Moreno. That and his chin has never been tested.

Canelo will get big fights so its pretty much a given that he'll be in the top 10. Oh and there are tons of P4P stars who weren't fast or hard to hit.

I gotta disagree with you on Juanma, I love the kid- his personality and style, but I don't see how he could beat Gamboa. Gamboa is too fast and too smart, if you compare their Salido fights you can see how Gamboa doesn't mind being less exciting to get the win while Juanma has to go balls to the wall each time.

I think Juanma loses to both Gamboa and Donaire, I think Mikey Garcia would also beat Juanma.

I think Gamboa vs Donaire would be extremely interesting.

I tend to agree with New England, I don't think Canelo turns into a P4P type. I think he'll make great fights but fall short in his biggest ones, maybe like De La Hoya. So perhaps his name will appear on a P4P list at some point, but he won't stay there long.

[fishman]

Im not disagreeing with you, just stating the obvious. I like juanma and was surprised when he lost, although everyone knew he had some flaws. Id like to see him come back and win in a rematch. I still disagree with his ranking on that 3 year out p4p list, however.