Floyds resume is quite impressive!!

[-Antonio-]

At 130-135 Floyd did work. From 140-147 It was all about money fights. I'd say overall it was very good. There's other fighters from this generation with better ones, like Hopkins and Pac.

[BG_Knocc_Out]

Corrales was undefeated, you can't get more grade A than that. Then he went on to become champion.

Castillo was Ring champion at 135 when Floyd beat him. Then Floyd defended it against him again and beat him again. If Castillo was not a grade A boxer when Floyd beat him, then how did Castillo managed to become The Ring champion at 135 once again after the rematch? So he was The Ring champion before and after Floyd neat him, you have to be a pretty good fighter to do that, and even a better fighter to beat some one like that Castillo at the time.


Okay at 140 he didn't fight any grade A fighters, i'll give you 140. Corley, that version, was still a pretty tough southpaw with only 2 losses at the time.

147, he fought a pretty okay B fighter in Judah at the time, Baldomir was a fight the fans were asking for and saying Mayweather was scared of him. Mosley was a grade A fighter because he was the Lineal WW champion.

Hatton was a grade A fighter or else he wouldn't have been undefeated coming in to the fight, and only have 1 loss coming in to the Pacquiao fight.

De La Hoya was a grade A fighter who only losses to other A+ fighters[like Hatton he only lost to two other A+ fighters]. When Mosley beat DLH, Mosley was a A+ fighter, Hopkins was a A+ fighter, Mayweather is an A+ fighter, Pacquiao is an A+ fighter, Sturm was an A+ fighter.

Come on Kev, you're better than that. You're too lenient.

Let's take a look at some current grade A fighters (skill-wise and partly resume-wise, and based solely on my opinion. DON'T GET BUTT HURT PEOPLE):

Pacquiao A+
Mayweather A+
Martinez A
Ward A+
Froch A-
W. Klitschko A
Bradley A-
Khan A-
Hopkins A- (debatable)

Do you think being the champ in one of the 18 weight classes in a short period of time puts you in the same realm as them? Skill-wise does Corrales compare? Resume-wise does Corrales compare? This is only a current list, and some of the fighters on there are debatable (lets not argue who's on there, because it's irrelevant and you'd be missing the point).

Lets not look at titles here, because anyone can be a title holder. How many elite, prime, grade A fighters have Corrales, Castillo, Baldomir, and Judah beaten? Being a grade A level fighter means they are likely in their prime, active, and have some recent accomplishments along with some great wins (not just paper wins, but performance wins as well). This DOES NOT mean that just because you once were an elite, grade A fighter does NOT mean you are ALWAYS one.

And that whole DLH paragraph is ridiculous man. Fighting A+ fighters doesn't make you A+. DLH in 2007 was nowhere near his prime, and nowhere near the level he used to be.

Same With Mosley. You seriously think Mosley was prime? There's a select few fighters throughout history who have remained elite even years out of their primes, and that list is probably in the single digits. Mosley most certainly is not one of them. Ray Robinson, Roberto Duran; Yes. To think his win over a badly faded Mosley was a legitimate, top-notch win is insane.

Floyd is elite and an A because of how easily he dismantled B fighters, along with the amount of B fighters he did that to. Same goes for Pacquiao and Hatton. They both have a great number of B's, but A's non-existent for Hatton, and barely (in my opinion) more than Floyd for Pac.

Labeling a fighter as elite should not come so easy. If saying Corrales deserves an A, and Floyd deserves and A, what is to separate the two?

[jrosales13]

[-Kev-]

Come on Kev, you're better than that. You're too lenient.

Let's take a look at some current grade A fighters (skill-wise and partly resume-wise, and based solely on my opinion. DON'T GET BUTT HURT PEOPLE):

Pacquiao A+
Mayweather A+
Martinez A
Ward A+
Froch A-
W. Klitschko A
Bradley A-
Khan A-
Hopkins A- (debatable)

Do you think being the champ in one of the 18 weight classes in a short period of time puts you in the same realm as them? Skill-wise does Corrales compare? Resume-wise does Corrales compare? This is only a current list, and some of the fighters on there are debatable (lets not argue who's on there, because it's irrelevant and you'd be missing the point).

Lets not look at titles here, because anyone can be a title holder. How many elite, prime, grade A fighters have Corrales, Castillo, Baldomir, and Judah beaten? Being a grade A level fighter means they are likely in their prime, active, and have some recent accomplishments along with some great wins (not just paper wins, but performance wins as well). This DOES NOT mean that just because you once were an elite, grade A fighter does NOT mean you are ALWAYS one.

And that whole DLH paragraph is ridiculous man. Fighting A+ fighters doesn't make you A+. DLH in 2007 was nowhere near his prime, and nowhere near the level he used to be.

Same With Mosley. You seriously think Mosley was prime? There's a select few fighters throughout history who have remained elite even years out of their primes, and that list is probably in the single digits. Mosley most certainly is not one of them. Ray Robinson, Roberto Duran; Yes. To think his win over a badly faded Mosley was a legitimate, top-notch win is insane.

Floyd is elite and an A because of how easily he dismantled B fighters, along with the amount of B fighters he did that to. Same goes for Pacquiao and Hatton. They both have a great number of B's, but A's non-existent for Hatton, and barely (in my opinion) more than Floyd for Pac.

Labeling a fighter as elite should not come so easy. If saying Corrales deserves an A, and Floyd deserves and A, what is to separate the two?

I didn't call DLH an A+ fighter, I called him an A fighter. I called him an A fighter because in 2007 I would have facored DLH against almost almost any one, except Winky, May, and Vernon. I didn't call Coralles and Mayweather an A fighter, I called Coralles an A fighter, Mayweather A+. That's what separated them. That + is the difference. A+ is elite, A is very good, you could beat other B fighters easily. A+ plusL you can beat anybody. This is my opinion, of course, there's no rules for grading boxers. If you think becoming Lineal or The Ring champion does not matter nowadays, well, let's just agree to disagree on that.

[BG_Knocc_Out]

I didn't call DLH an A+ fighter, I called him an A fighter. I called him an A fighter because in 2007 I would have facored DLH against almost almost any one, except Winky, May, and Vernon. I didn't call Coralles and Mayweather an A fighter, I called Coralles an A fighter, Mayweather A+. That's what separated them. That + is the difference. A+ is elite, A is very good, you could beat other B fighters easily. A+ plusL you can beat anybody. This is my opinion, of course, there's no rules for grading boxers. If you think becoming Lineal or The Ring champion does not matter nowadays, well, let's just agree to disagree on that.

I feel you. I always felt that A's representing 91-100%, and that would obviously warrant the top tier, highest echelon of fighters. The top 10 P4P (maybe 15-20) deserve to have any sort of A, and the A+'s are reserved for thee best fighters in the sport (ie. Mayweather, Pacquiao, maybe Martinez). Basically, I spread things out more because then there would almost be no need for an F, D, and C grades if you're not talking about Zelenoff. Get what I'm saying?

[jrosales13]

Being undefeated doesn't make you an A fighter. Being a lineal champion doesn't make you an A fighter. Being both doesn't make you an A fighter.

You can have an A level skill set or an A level resume.

[Filipino_Pride]

pakman bess fight never in hisory

[DarrylX]

pakman bess fight never in hisory

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[-Kev-]

I feel you. I always felt that A's representing 91-100%, and that would obviously warrant the top tier, highest echelon of fighters. The top 10 P4P (maybe 15-20) deserve to have any sort of A, and the A+'s are reserved for thee best fighters in the sport (ie. Mayweather, Pacquiao, maybe Martinez). Basically, I spread things out more because then there would almost be no need for an F, D, and C grades if you're not talking about Zelenoff. Get what I'm saying?

I agree with this.

[neoz]

lol funny thread ts
only two fighter really worth mentioning are marquez and mosley
too bad marquez is a lightweight who style was taylor made for floyd.
too bad mosley was too old and no stamina else floyd would of been put to sleep in the 2nd round.