Vitaliy is a Legend

[BadMagick]

What I don't get is this: If Vitali is a legend, but not of boxing, what the **** is this doing in non-stop boxing?

[j]

contrast to some opinions, i don't feel ll was horribly out of shape. perhaps a bit more ring rusty. but that's what training camp is for - preparation. lennox was preparing for better opposition than klitschko was anyways.

if a rematch were to have happened - what makes some of you people think vitali was going to get worst. i only hear mention of lewis getting sharper. even though there may be no one in the division of which vk can compare to as ll's level of fighting, vitali has not shown that he's gotten worse. he's even adding a few more new techniques. i don't see him getting technically worse. only better.

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Yeah that is Nautilis. Why did he ask to be banned?

What I don't get is what Nautilis had to make this new account and pretend to be someone new to continue his Klitschko threads.

Why does someone need to do that for any reason other than some degree of self associated shame?

[BadMagick]

contrast to some opinions, i don't feel ll was horribly out of shape. perhaps a bit more ring rusty. but that's what training camp is for - preparation. lennox was preparing for better opposition than klitschko was anyways.

if a rematch were to have happened - what makes some of you people think vitali was going to get worst. i only hear mention of lewis getting sharper. even though there may be no one in the division of which vk can compare to as ll's level of fighting, vitali has not shown that he's gotten worse. he's even adding a few more new techniques. i don't see him getting technically worse. only better.

No one is saying he'd get worse, but that he wouldn't have been all that much better. He probably wouldn't be, but Lennox would have been.

Lennox came in at 256 and 1/2 pounds in that fight. His normal fight weight was below 250. He was carrying an extra six+ pounds, considering that, at his normal weight near the end of his career, he was about 248 or so, that's 8.5 pounds. That's pretty damn out of shape.

[j]

i can't argue on his weight statistics, because i don't know his stats off the top of my head.

but, what comes to mind, is why have the last four people he fought have on here been considered to have came in out of shape.

meaning: all four of them - lennox lewis, kirk johnson, corrie sanders, and danny williams. why did they fight out of shape?

[Enayze]

What? What thread.

My father is from Uzhgorod and my mother is from Lviv and my self was born in Kamyanka-Buzka(born and raised) city 30km from Lviv. I have no Russian blood. THe only non Ukrainian blood in me is polish, and hungarian which is so way back down the family tree its irrelivant.

hehehehe Im pure blooded Ukrainian, my family name goes back to the 1800's

[BadMagick]

i can't argue on his weight statistics, because i don't know his stats off the top of my head.

but, what comes to mind, is why have the last four people he fought have on here been considered to have came in out of shape.

meaning: all four of them - lennox lewis, kirk johnson, corrie sanders, and danny williams. why did they fight out of shape?

I don't know why they fought out of shape, nor have I heard any of those other people claimed to have been out of shape. Lewis was absolutely not in his top shape for that fight.

http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=001853

You can look at all his weights there. 245 vs Holyfield, 247 vs Grant, 249 vs Tua, 253.5 in Rahman I (Got KTFO), 246.5 in Rahman 2 (Knocks Rahman out, coincidence that his weight was lower? I think not), 249.25 vs Tyson, and 256.5 vs Vitali. That was the most he had ever weighed in any fight. He was definitely not in fighting shape.

[riz]

a legend?BAH!Vitali needs more fights to be able to compare to Lennox Lewis.

o right lennox lewis .... he fought a past his prime mike tyson, a washed up holfyeild.... got KO'd against 2 lesser fighters in teh division. hell he ducked ruiz and byrd, and rather give up the titles then fight them....
lewis is ****

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My pops pop is from Kiev.

And people throw around the war legend too much.

hehehehe Im pure blooded Ukrainian, my family name goes back to the 1800's

[j]

i'm also adding that vitali(and wladimir) took their early promoters to court. they could've felt that they were not getting the best possible fights. it's definitely good that they made their own promotions company. better fights being made.


i wonder how don king feels about that? lol.


seems like he's having some troubles with his fighters.