Predict Mayweather-Ortiz PPV #'s now that Canelo is on the undercard

[ThePrince]

People predicting Pac/JMM to outsell this. When will you understand that Manny isn't a bigger ppv draw than Floyd?

Hmmmmm, where have I seen this story before? Floyd comes back from a long 'vacation' or 'retirement' and then schedules a fight 2 months before Pacquiao?

Oh yeah...

Mayweather-Ortiz 1 million buys (September 2009)

Pacquiao-Cotto 1.25 million buys (November 2009)

Mayweather's first return was much more hyped and Marquez a much easier sell. Plus Floyd's 'rib injury' gave them a few more months of extra promotions.

Pacquiao-Marquez is a lot more anticipated than Pac-Cotto and will have a much bigger platform to advertise from (CBS coverage, planned world tour, etc) not to mention Pacquiao is a much higher profile athlete now than he was then. He has at least 2 commercials playing on a loop on network tv and cable alike, top 20 billboard hit, etc. Floyd on the other hand is the laughing stock of boxing, whether his fans want to admit that or not, and Victor Ortiz after running away from Pacquiao and going on 'vacation' isn't going to wow anyone outside of his hardcore fans. Again-

Mayweather-Ortiz 900K-1 mil buys

Pacquiao-Marquez 1.4-1.5 mil buys

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Hmmmmm, where have I seen this story before? Floyd comes back from a long 'vacation' or 'retirement' and then schedules a fight 2 months before Pacquiao?

Oh yeah...

Mayweather-Ortiz 1 million buys (September 2009)

Pacquiao-Cotto 1.25 million buys (November 2009)

Mayweather's first return was much more hyped and Marquez a much easier sell. Plus Floyd's 'rib injury' gave them a few more months of extra promotions.

Pacquiao-Marquez is a lot more anticipated than Pac-Cotto and will have a much bigger platform to advertise from (CBS coverage, planned world tour, etc) not to mention Pacquiao is a much higher profile athlete now than he was then. He has at least 2 commercials playing on a loop on network tv and cable alike, top 20 billboard hit, etc. Floyd on the other hand is the laughing stock of boxing, whether his fans want to admit that or not, and Victor Ortiz after running away from Pacquiao and going on 'vacation' isn't going to wow anyone outside of his hardcore fans. Again-

Mayweather-Ortiz 900K-1 mil buys

Pacquiao-Marquez 1.4-1.5 mil buys

That's the only time that's really going to happen though. Mayweather/Marquez was kind of viewed in a negative light and a tune up. Pacquaio/Cotto was looked at as a great fight and a fight a lot of people wanted to see.

The upcoming fights are the polar opposites though. Mayweather/Ortiz is looked at as a pretty hot fight, a fight people want to see. Pacquaio/Marquez is looked at in a negative light, a little too late and outside of their natural weights.

[Check_hooks]

less than 1 million

[jimboinbigd]

How come we always get to see Mayweather's PPV numbers posted by credible sources like HBO, and the cable outlets but with Pac and Arum there's always delays and BS coming only from Arum? No way did Pac/Mosley do 1.3 million buys...if it did, Showtime would have confirmed it. Instead, credible sources like Yahoo Sports and other came out and said it did more like 1.1 million...far short of what Mayweather/Mosley did.

Mayweather/Ortiz (assisted nicely by Richard Schaefer and Golden Boy) will do somewhere around 1.6 million buys and end up #2 all-time (non Heavyweight) behind Floyd/Oscar.

Pac/Marquez will do 1.0-1.2 million if the fight is on HBO and promoted as aggressively as they seem to be promoting the upcoming Floyd fight. If the fight is on Showtime the fight will probably do 800,000-1 million buys but Bob will come out and say it did a few hundred thousand more and Showtime will remain silent again...because it will fall well short of Floyd and HBO.

[The Future]

my boy Floyd could generate almost 3 million by himself. with that whitebread mexican cat, they gonna breal 3.5 million ppv buys easy

Hahaha, man your baised.

Anyways though, I really think it will be close to de la hoya numbers 2.4, and would not be shocked if it gets a tad higher. With canelo and morrales on the card AND the main eventer being mexican, young, and powerful. This card will do GREAT!

[ИATAS]

17.8 Billion

[Phenom]

Mayweather
Ortiz
Canelo
Morales
vargas


on the same card this has to do more then the Mosley fight

[The Future]

How come we always get to see Mayweather's PPV numbers posted by credible sources like HBO, and the cable outlets but with Pac and Arum there's always delays and BS coming only from Arum? No way did Pac/Mosley do 1.3 million buys...if it did, Showtime would have confirmed it. Instead, credible sources like Yahoo Sports and other came out and said it did more like 1.1 million...far short of what Mayweather/Mosley did.

Mayweather/Ortiz (assisted nicely by Richard Schaefer and Golden Boy) will do somewhere around 1.6 million buys and end up #2 all-time (non Heavyweight) behind Floyd/Oscar.

Pac/Marquez will do 1.0-1.2 million if the fight is on HBO and promoted as aggressively as they seem to be promoting the upcoming Floyd fight. If the fight is on Showtime the fight will probably do 800,000-1 million buys but Bob will come out and say it did a few hundred thousand more and Showtime will remain silent again...because it will fall well short of Floyd and HBO.

Why do people like you always have to try to switch a topic to pacquiao hatered?
Mayweather sells a bit more then manny, who cares?
They know how to promote and WHO to put on the undercard. 2nd time canelo is on the card.

Very smart

[jurob]

1 million is a huge success! People acting like a ppv getting only 1 million is a failure are nuts.

That being said, will easily do 1 million with or without Alvarez. He is the biggest joke and only gets attention in this racist world because he looks white.

[jimboinbigd]

Why do people like you always have to try to switch a topic to pacquiao hatered?
Mayweather sells a bit more then manny, who cares?
They know how to promote and WHO to put on the undercard. 2nd time canelo is on the card.

Very smart

No, I don't hate Pacquiao...nice try. To people like you, anytime someone goes away from the BS Arum script, it's "hate." Sad and dumb actually.

Anyway, you're right...Mayweather does consistently outsell Pac and when they line up to fight their deals should reflect that fact. Give them 50/50 on the purse but Mayweather should get 60/40 on the PPV dollars.