Toney: Becoming a believer

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  • freirui
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    #21
    Toney is ****,Vitali will knock toney out cold!

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    • oldgringo
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      #22
      Originally posted by freirui
      Toney is ****,Vitali will knock toney out cold!
      Very nice insightful post. You're right...Toney is the worst fight EVER. Vitali would break him in half.

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      • KJ
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        #23
        Originally posted by freirui
        Toney is ****,Vitali will knock toney out cold!
        Sure! Toney did not beat Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum, Iran Barkley, Vassiliy Jirov and did not give Evander Holyfield a beating a la Bowe, and did not basically with one-hand-only win every round against booker. If Toney is ****, where would that leave yourself?

        About the vital part, let's see if they meet in 2005. Toney probably being the second in line to face vitaly. Lets hope vitaly does not loose before that.

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        • boxing fan
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          #24
          James Toney is too small for Vitali. Vitali will use his long arms to keep Toney away.

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          • wissy
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            #25
            People say Toney can just go in and beat Klit to the body. Well easier said than done. Williams tried to get inside and he got hammered for trying. It's not like Williams wanted to fight on the outside, he had no choice coz he coudn't get inside of Klit's long arms. Plus Toney is a counterpuncher. Meaning he fights defensive, and counters shots. You can't really get inside fighting like that. So if they ever meet, it will be pretty one-sided.

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            • oldgringo
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              #26
              Originally posted by wissy
              People say Toney can just go in and beat Klit to the body. Well easier said than done. Williams tried to get inside and he got hammered for trying. It's not like Williams wanted to fight on the outside, he had no choice coz he coudn't get inside of Klit's long arms. Plus Toney is a counterpuncher. Meaning he fights defensive, and counters shots. You can't really get inside fighting like that. So if they ever meet, it will be pretty one-sided.

              Let me retort...Toney and Williams should NEVER be compared. JT is quicker than Williams and doesn't base his defense on blocking punches with his face. He is far slicker and more experienced...he WILL find a way to get inside on Vitali. Of course James won't just simply walk inside of VKs long reach and **** his body...hes gonna have to block and take some of VK's heavy shots to do it...but thats wehere the defense and chin comes into play. As for Toney only being a counter puncher...you obviously haven't seem him fight enough or you just don't want to give him any respect. James can cut the ring off very well and knows how to take the lead in a fight and put pressure on. He did this against Nunn in the later parts of their fight, he did this against McCallum at times, and put the pressure on Booker their entire fight. He just prefers to let the other fighter come pressure him. So if they ever meet...it won't be pretty one-sided.

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              • phallus
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                #27
                comparing williams nad toney is sort of ******ed, williams is an average hw at best and james toney is the next greatest natural talent to roy jones jr. my guess is lights out will try to crouch under Big K's jab and move inside then hammer his body, that's what i would try to do if i had to fight him. Big K has never had anyone in front of him, save for Chris Byrd, who can slip and slide the way toney can

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                • KJ
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by boxing fan
                  James Toney is too small for Vitali. Vitali will use his long arms to keep Toney away.
                  Vitali has to hit something to keep somebody away.

                  It was the great Tyson used his small posture as an advantage in his boxingstyle.

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