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  • Carpe Diem
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    #311
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
    What stats have I manipulated?
    Oh, i don't know. How about adds up their jabs lands and throws with their power punches lands and throws for starter? But instead you only post the power punches total because that's only way you know Manny might have a chance, but when you look at their last nine fights, Floyd's power punches % is still higher.

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      #312
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
      Yes I'm just using the power punches, because the jab can be and is use to set up punches, as a defensive weopon and as a foil to create opening.

      Compubox will say these punches miss the target, but infact they are doing there job.
      as i have pointed out in my previous posts, this topic is kind of subjective...

      i can agree with you to take out the jabs in the equation as i understand your view about the other uses of the jabs......

      however, i can also see some validity in the inclusion of the jabs as per other posters view.......

      hence, the topic, in my view, is really subjective...

      even fight commentators covering the bouts recognized pac as a very accurate puncher; with some claiming pac as today's most accurate puncher.....

      but that is not the end of it.......

      people then will be looking at/compare the recipient of the punches..the opponents

      and will also include the time element when the fights happened.....

      and we will have terms as; old, washed up, left overs, past primes etc., etc.

      and then again, everything becomes subjective....

      don't get me wrong; your thread is a very good one and interesting....

      the fact that we got this far attest to that.....

      cheers to all...

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        #313
        Originally posted by Boxing Tiger
        Oh, i don't know. How about adds up their jabs lands and throws with their power punches lands and throws for starter? But instead you only post the power punches total because that's only way you know Manny might have a chance, but when you look at their last nine fights, Floyd's power punches % is still higher.
        6 fights is plently and I have explained the power punch situation.

        Floyd accuracy is still very high it is just 2nd to Pacquiao at the moment.

        That might change in the next fight with Ortiz being so easy to hit.

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          #314
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          6 fights is plently and I have explained the power punch situation.

          Floyd accuracy is still very high it is just 2nd to Pacquiao at the moment.

          That might change in the next fight with Ortiz being so easy to hit.


          let it go you already made yourself look ****** enough the poll speaks for itself

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            #315
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation
            6 fights is plently and I have explained the power punch situation.

            Floyd accuracy is still very high it is just 2nd to Pacquiao at the moment.

            That might change in the next fight with Ortiz being so easy to hit.

            Stop lying.

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              #316
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation
              6 fights is plently and I have explained the power punch situation.

              Floyd accuracy is still very high it is just 2nd to Pacquiao at the moment.

              That might change in the next fight with Ortiz being so easy to hit.
              You only chose six fights because you didn't wanted to go further to see how Floyd's power percentage would increase, while Manny's would decrease. Once again, you're choosing whatever criteria fits your agenda. If it was possible, i'd want to update all of their professional fights punch stats since their pro debut and see who's truly the more accurate. Why stop at just six fights? you can look at three more. If you can find Manny's punch stats from the Jorge Solis fight, then i would gladly keep on adding up more fights to prove if he's truly a more accurate puncher than Floyd.

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                #317
                Originally posted by Boxing Tiger
                You only chose six fights because you didn't wanted to go further to see how Floyd's power percentage would increase, while Manny's would decrease. Once again, you're choosing whatever criteria fits your agenda. If it was possible, i'd want to update all of their professional fights punch stats since their pro debut and see who's truly the more accurate. Why stop at just six fights? you can look at three more. If you can find Manny's punch stats from the Jorge Solis fight, then i would gladly keep on adding up more fights to prove if he's truly a more accurate puncher than Floyd.
                Were talking about the most accurate fight now, not 6/7 years ago.

                For a truer result I should have loaded it so that the more recent fights counted for more.

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                  #318
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  6 fights is plently and I have explained the power punch situation.

                  Floyd accuracy is still very high it is just 2nd to Pacquiao at the moment.

                  That might change in the next fight with Ortiz being so easy to hit.
                  Fact: Floyd has a higher total connect percentage and is therefore more accurate than Pacquiao (see Boxing Tiger's posts in this thread)

                  So far you have provided no counter facts.

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                    #319
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    Were talking about the most accurate fight now, not 6/7 years ago.

                    For a truer result I should have loaded it so that the more recent fights counted for more.


                    Okay. How many of their recent fights do you want me to look up?

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                      #320
                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                      Some people seem to think Mayweather is the most accurate puncher but the truth of the matter is that Pacquiao is more accurate than Mayweather.

                      Pacquiao throw more punches and is a combination puncher, both these things redcue accuracy. On top of this Pacquiao is a harder puncher and throws harder puncher, another thing that will effect accuracy.

                      We also have to forget about the jab as the jab is use to open a defence and find range, so it can be used effectively even though it is not landing.

                      Pacquiao also lands his punches right on the button, **** on the chin, Mayweather punches are more scoring punches.

                      Pacquiao landed an astonishing 50% of his power punches against Mosley while Mayweather landed an impresiive 46%, still 4 % less than Pacquiao. And Mosley was in defensive mode when facing Pacquiao and Pacquiao was throwing more punches than Mayweather.






                      Pacquiao vs Mosley

                      177 / 353: 50%



                      Mayweather Mosley

                      123 / 267: 46%




                      Pacquiao vs Margarito

                      411 / 713: 58%




                      Mayweather Marquez

                      105 / 177: 59%




                      Pacquiao vs Clottey

                      232 / 682: 34%



                      Mayweather vs Hatton

                      257/100: 39%

                      http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Fl...._Ricky_Hatton


                      Pacquiao vs Cotto

                      276 / 560: 49%



                      Mayweather vs De La Hoya

                      241/138: 57%

                      http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1149806


                      Pacquiao vs Hatton

                      65 / 105: 62%



                      Mayweather vs Baldomir

                      258/131: 51%

                      http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1104350

                      Pacquiao vs De la Hoya

                      195 / 333: 59%




                      Mayweather vs Judah

                      145/295 49%

                      A near-riot in the closing seconds of the 10th round only delayed the inevitable: A dominant Floyd Mayweather Jr. victory.




                      So what is there 6 fight average?

                      Pacquiao 52%


                      Mayweather 50.2%

                      There you have it the stats back up my theory and add to this Pacquiao throws more, hits harder and throws more combinations and higher punch combinations, you would have to agree Pacquiao is the more accurate puncher.

                      I liked when Pac landed accurately to Clotteys gloves and elbows and arms. He beat the **** out of his arms.

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