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Originally Posted by RL_GMA
Yea, the sports fans here are horrible. I mean, I myself am still wondering why in the hell they made a new stadium (dome mind you) for a team (The Marlins) who THIS year had a whopping 700 person attendance in one of their games!! They rely heavily on the opposing team's fans (i.e Mets, Phillies, Braves).
I actually think there's a bigger MMA push than Boxing as far as the consistency of the cards that are made here.
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I agree with most things you're saying... :/
But shouldn't we assume that the lack of boxing cards down here in the first place is partly to blame. I mean I remember the horrible fights that are thrown down here. However, Berto and Cintron are not really headliners to boast about. They would not draw anywhere. Comparatively, Juanma fights in one of the small rooms of the MSG and gets no draws there, I've attended. I mean thats the Garden... NYC. Are we to say that that is a huge success business-wise? I find it hard to fathom that Juanma vs Gamboa in Miami wouldn't have been a huge hit had Juanma remained unblemished.
I think the lack of cards down here are just as guilty as the fans. Fans are just not used to hearing about cards down here. And when they do it's usually a Berto, Cintron, or FNF... That isn't appealing to ANY casual fan in ANY town. Then you have the REAL headliners... Manny fought Clottey in Dallas and sold out. Neither Pac or Clottey were from TX, Mexican, or even American for that matter and sold it out. I know if Pacman or Floyd fought down here it would sell out the Triple A quickly with no problems. The reason is that fans recognize an EVENT.
Then you have an aspect of grooming a prospect in a city where he is known well. Cotto is well known, followed, and respected in NYC. His fights on the eve of the PR Day Parade show this. Cotto was allowed to grow in the hearts of his NYC fans due to his fighting in NYC for major bouts. You look at another example such as Canada's Jean Pascal. I was dazzled when I saw the turn up at the Bell Centre when he fought HOFer Hopkins. It was an epic event to them. I mean comparatively Bernard the HOFer, can't even draw in his own backyard of Philly and I believe this might be because he doesn't usually showcase there (though I can be wrong). As far as Pascal is concerned.... He has grown in the hearts of the people of Quebec and has fought 26 of his 29 fights in Quebec and has reaped the benefits of his fan loyalty full on. He draws massive crowds there. Bute has also fought 24 of his 29 fights in Quebec... Result, massive crowds.... Gamboa on the other hand, has never technically fought in Miami.. He has fought 3 times in Fort Lauderdale which is like calling New Jersey, New York.
Miami does have the worst overall sports fans... But aren't we to also assume the community isn't given many opportunities to embrace boxing as well... I feel like Gamboa could have grown into much more down here had he been put in EXCITING fights long ago instead of force feeding fans with nonsense not named Lopez, Donaire, John, even smaller Marquez.
I guess in the end, Miami and boxing might be better off dating other people.
Originally Posted by RL_GMA
Yea, the sports fans here are horrible. I mean, I myself am still wondering why in the hell they made a new stadium (dome mind you) for a team (The Marlins) who THIS year had a whopping 700 person attendance in one of their games!! They rely heavily on the opposing team's fans (i.e Mets, Phillies, Braves).
I actually think there's a bigger MMA push than Boxing as far as the consistency of the cards that are made here.
Response:
I agree with most things you're saying... :/
But shouldn't we assume that the lack of boxing cards down here in the first place is partly to blame. I mean I remember the horrible fights that are thrown down here. However, Berto and Cintron are not really headliners to boast about. They would not draw anywhere. Comparatively, Juanma fights in one of the small rooms of the MSG and gets no draws there, I've attended. I mean thats the Garden... NYC. Are we to say that that is a huge success business-wise? I find it hard to fathom that Juanma vs Gamboa in Miami wouldn't have been a huge hit had Juanma remained unblemished.
I think the lack of cards down here are just as guilty as the fans. Fans are just not used to hearing about cards down here. And when they do it's usually a Berto, Cintron, or FNF... That isn't appealing to ANY casual fan in ANY town. Then you have the REAL headliners... Manny fought Clottey in Dallas and sold out. Neither Pac or Clottey were from TX, Mexican, or even American for that matter and sold it out. I know if Pacman or Floyd fought down here it would sell out the Triple A quickly with no problems. The reason is that fans recognize an EVENT.
Then you have an aspect of grooming a prospect in a city where he is known well. Cotto is well known, followed, and respected in NYC. His fights on the eve of the PR Day Parade show this. Cotto was allowed to grow in the hearts of his NYC fans due to his fighting in NYC for major bouts. You look at another example such as Canada's Jean Pascal. I was dazzled when I saw the turn up at the Bell Centre when he fought HOFer Hopkins. It was an epic event to them. I mean comparatively Bernard the HOFer, can't even draw in his own backyard of Philly and I believe this might be because he doesn't usually showcase there (though I can be wrong). As far as Pascal is concerned.... He has grown in the hearts of the people of Quebec and has fought 26 of his 29 fights in Quebec and has reaped the benefits of his fan loyalty full on. He draws massive crowds there. Bute has also fought 24 of his 29 fights in Quebec... Result, massive crowds.... Gamboa on the other hand, has never technically fought in Miami.. He has fought 3 times in Fort Lauderdale which is like calling New Jersey, New York.
Miami does have the worst overall sports fans... But aren't we to also assume the community isn't given many opportunities to embrace boxing as well... I feel like Gamboa could have grown into much more down here had he been put in EXCITING fights long ago instead of force feeding fans with nonsense not named Lopez, Donaire, John, even smaller Marquez.
I guess in the end, Miami and boxing might be better off dating other people.