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People will look back at all of the catch weight,weight drained fighters who were on their last leg and over the hill , that he beat; AND, they will see that he refused to take Olympic style drug test , and wonder if he was as great as people claimed during his "reign"................
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I will admit one of the funny things about Pac and Floyd stans is their counter threads with the same titles. I actually laughed when I saw the title of this thread. -
Hell ya, Pac, was good early great late and denied during and will after unless caught... Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa Barry Bonds and now Roger Clemens (the baseballs pac) are all under suspecion, and black clouded....
Unless Pac stops fighting now, takes the test next or loses soon he will be black clouded... no one keeps winning... hes been fighting since he was 16-17 pro, hes at where Roy was 5-6 yrs ago.. he's reign should be up soon.. or take the test prove your clean and keep winning@Comment
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Sadly i have to say yes. Unless he succumbs to Floyds request to take the test and passes it with flying colors and beats Floyd. But if this fight doesnt get made he will always be questioned and people will always talk about the refusal to take a steroid test. Floyd and his team put him in a fuc&ed up position, either give in and test or refuse and be looked at like a cheater. Brilliant strategy but fuc&ed up.Comment
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Floyd Wifebeater's ducking of Cotto and Margarito in favor of fighting loser Judah and bum Baldomir will always be a dark cloud in all of boxing the likes of it has never been seen before.
An even darker cloud was Mayweather's showing up in the ring at 158 lbs. against the 142 lbs. Marquez. Cheater!!!! Cheater!!!! Cheater!!!
Xylocaine is a black cloud over boxing.
Fixed blood tests where Floyd's so-called "random" blood tests were mysteriously halted 18 days versus Mosley was a black cloud over all of sports.Comment
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Margarito nor Cotto are our have been considered ATG, Judah has/was, Baldomir was a proven journeymen who was on a 7 yr 10+ fights winning streak.... Marg and Cotto started loseing as soon as there comp was stepped up to, Judah baldomir level guys...
In the end 30 yrs from now Floyd will be ALI, Pac will be Joe FrazierComment
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Yes...Comment
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I actually agree with this. I don't think Pac will be Joe Frazier though. Pac will more or less be remembered for his stint with the mexican greats. When boxing analysts really break down his legacy, they will see that everything after Marquez 2 was a sham. Hell, Teddy Atlas has already pretty much thrown the book at him.
"Diaz, made to order. Hatton, made to order. Oscar, dead at weight. Cotto, dead at weight and a damaged fighter. Clottey, wouldn't fight. Margarito, no plaster. Mosley, old and shot."
Atlas words on ESPN. NOT MINE.Comment
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I guess in the same way the McMartin's will always be connected with child ******ation, or ***** being born in Kenya.Last edited by MuckMuck; 07-21-2011, 01:24 AM.Comment
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