Marquez beat Pacquiao twice imo but....

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • JoeDaWg
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Jun 2010
    • 1252
    • 53
    • 0
    • 7,404

    #11
    Marquez couldn't get a victory over a one handed pac the first time, and a drained pac the second time. I have a real hard time believing he's gonna get a win this time. Jmm is a stud, he's a warrior, but this one isn't gonna end well for him. He gets knocked down far to often to ever win a decision, that means he's gotta go for the ko. Pac is gonna be a monster at 144, without having pac cut some weight, I don't see how he'll be able to handle him. The only reason I'm looking forward to this is warrior he's more then willing to go out on his shield, he isn't gonna be satisfied running around and just surviving. He's coming to win, he's going down swinging, he's not going to embarrass himself in there the way shane did.

    Comment

    • tennis-legend
      Banned
      Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
      • Jul 2011
      • 649
      • 35
      • 0
      • 768

      #12
      the first draw should have been a pac win

      the JUDGE screwed manny by mistake by not scoring right

      JMM is a great fighter but lets get it straight

      manny knocked hm down 4 times!
      4 times

      Comment

      • optkliluzn
        Contender
        • Mar 2008
        • 339
        • 14
        • 0
        • 6,656

        #13
        I went back and watched the marquez pacquiao fights and scored them and in my opinion pacquiao won both fights, hell I thougt pacquiao did better in the first figt and the 2nd fight could be a draw if not a win for pacquiao, I questioned myself on a few rounds which really means both figt should be justified draws, but even the ref that miss scored the first figt admitted he scored wrong and pacquiao should have won on his card. Pacquaio didn't have much skill back then justa lot of heart and a lot of speed, he has learned a lot now, he has a whole arsenol to use, the only man that has a chance to beat him now is mayweather and I believe that fight is a toss up. If they both figt their usual styles then pacquiao wins hands down on points, but mayweather is a master at making fighters fight differently and that's how they lose soooo it all depends how they figt in the ring
        Originally posted by ny123
        Pacquiao at 147 is a beast without a doubt but dont forget he did lose to Morales before and should have at least imo have lost to Marquez twice. Thats why I wouldn't call him a mexicutioner.

        Comment

        • optkliluzn
          Contender
          • Mar 2008
          • 339
          • 14
          • 0
          • 6,656

          #14
          Originally posted by JoeDaWg
          Marquez couldn't get a victory over a one handed pac the first time, and a drained pac the second time. I have a real hard time believing he's gonna get a win this time. Jmm is a stud, he's a warrior, but this one isn't gonna end well for him. He gets knocked down far to often to ever win a decision, that means he's gotta go for the ko. Pac is gonna be a monster at 144, without having pac cut some weight, I don't see how he'll be able to handle him. The only reason I'm looking forward to this is warrior he's more then willing to go out on his shield, he isn't gonna be satisfied running around and just surviving. He's coming to win, he's going down swinging, he's not going to embarrass himself in there the way shane did.
          I completly agree, I am looking forward to this figt because marquez is no running b**** he will bring it to pacquiao, I think marquez is guna nail pac with some huge shots which will make it interesting, but pac will win by KO or massive points, pacs face I bet will look bad thoug after

          Comment

          • AssasinKing
            UNITED
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • Mar 2009
            • 5968
            • 169
            • 116
            • 13,253

            #15
            I had the first fight a pac win by 1 round

            and had the 2nd fight a draw

            I do think marquez is in for a hell of a beating this time

            Think we might see him knocked out for the first time in his career? Has he actually ever been KO'd?

            Seen him knocked down countless times, never knocked out tho

            Comment

            • Wazaa..
              Banned
              Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
              • Sep 2010
              • 466
              • 45
              • 31
              • 561

              #16
              There's nothing to suggest Pac could win convincingly much less win by knockout. I don't think beating David Diaz, or weight drained shot versions of Cotto or Margarito will prepare him to do anything against someone as good as Marquez.

              Perhaps you saw something similar to JMM in Clottey and Hatton?

              Probably not tho. Marquez should win again going away. Frankly, I see him k.o'ing Pac this time.

              Comment

              • ChiTown2Diego
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Jun 2009
                • 1571
                • 52
                • 33
                • 7,800

                #17
                Originally posted by -Huey-
                I wish JMM was fighting Pac under fair terms but Pac must always have ALL the advantages or there's no fight. Hell, even 140 would have been a little better for JMM. Bullshit fight.
                I'm a big JMM fan and don't consider this fight to be on unfair terms. More importantly nor does JMM himself. Sure he (and I) would rather it be at a lower weight but that is not the way it works when you're the one doing the chasing of someone that is in a higher weight class who happens to call the shots. That doesn't mean it's unfair. That means that's the way the game is played. Bottom line: JMM plain knows how to fight Pac at any weight class. The question will be his fight-night-weight-goal-strategy and how long will he be able to perform effectively on his second attempt at WW.

                I've got Pac winning like most everybody else but I expect a much better showing from JMM than his performance against Floyd. For two simple reasons; He'll use what he learned in regards to gaining weight from the FM fight and simply because styles make fights.

                Comment

                • The Big Dunn
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 70179
                  • 9,899
                  • 8,188
                  • 287,568

                  #18
                  Originally posted by ChiTown2Diego
                  I'm a big JMM fan and don't consider this fight to be on unfair terms. More importantly nor does JMM himself. Sure he (and I) would rather it be at a lower weight but that is not the way it works when you're the one doing the chasing of someone that is in a higher weight class who happens to call the shots. That doesn't mean it's unfair. That means that's the way the game is played. Bottom line: JMM plain knows how to fight Pac at any weight class. The question will be his fight-night-weight-goal-strategy and how long will he be able to perform effectively on his second attempt at WW.

                  I've got Pac winning like most everybody else but I expect a much better showing from JMM than his performance against Floyd. For two simple reasons; He'll use what he learned in regards to gaining weight from the FM fight and simply because styles make fights.
                  Aint unfair when this is the ONLY way you make over $5 mil.

                  Comment

                  • Chups
                    Banned
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • May 2004
                    • 18400
                    • 1,835
                    • 1,281
                    • 52,879

                    #19
                    Originally posted by Wazaa..
                    There's nothing to suggest Pac could win convincingly much less win by knockout. I don't think beating David Diaz, or weight drained shot versions of Cotto or Margarito will prepare him to do anything against someone as good as Marquez.

                    Perhaps you saw something similar to JMM in Clottey and Hatton?

                    Probably not tho. Marquez should win again going away. Frankly, I see him k.o'ing Pac this time.
                    Look at this Indian.

                    Comment

                    • Left Hook Tua
                      VATNIK
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 62306
                      • 7,010
                      • 1,581
                      • 951,318

                      #20
                      Originally posted by ny123
                      Its not going to mean jack **** in this third fight. My official prediction is thatManny will ko him in 5 but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this ends in the first 3 rounds.

                      To all the Marquez fans who don't like this thread
                      i had it pacquiao tko1 win in the 1st fight and pacquiao ud12 in the 2nd.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP