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  • fitefanSHO
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    #31
    Ortiz will be to a declining Mayweather what Terry Norris was to Ray Leonard.

    A "handpicked", safe opponent who is young and good, but not seen as too threatening.

    Mayweather will get old before our eyes and Ortiz will kick his ass.

    Ortiz W12 Mayweather.

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    • -Johannes-
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      #32
      Ortiz is going to start really strong and might even have his dominant lapses early in the first three rounds. Mayweather begins to pick his shots and makes Ortiz think, dropping his output. Floyd continues to win rounds and then begins a dull fight from round 9-12 when Ortiz has been outclassed. UD Mayweather. Pretty much like every other fight he's had.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #33
        Originally posted by fitefanSHO
        Ortiz will be to a declining Mayweather what Terry Norris was to Ray Leonard.

        A "handpicked", safe opponent who is young and good, but not seen as too threatening.

        Mayweather will get old before our eyes and Ortiz will kick his ass.

        Ortiz W12 Mayweather.
        Terry Norris is significantly better than Ortiz and floyd is not as far removed from his prme as SRL was.

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        • fitefanSHO
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          #34
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          Terry Norris is significantly better than Ortiz and floyd is not as far removed from his prme as SRL was.
          I guess we'll find out when they fight, huh?

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #35
            Originally posted by fitefanSHO
            I guess we'll find out when they fight, huh?
            No. If Victor wins it doesn't mean the Norris/SRL analogy is correct. Norris wasn't as huge an underdog if memory serves me correct. I think Vic is a live underdog. But if I say that then all the haters say well you're a floyd fan and you are just making him out to be better than he is.

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            • fitefanSHO
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              #36
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              No. If Victor wins it doesn't mean the Norris/SRL analogy is correct. Norris wasn't as huge an underdog if memory serves me correct. I think Vic is a live underdog. But if I say that then all the haters say well you're a floyd fan and you are just making him out to be better than he is.
              Well, first of all who gives a **** what the idiots have to say, and second of all my memory serves me differently than yours. Not sure your age, but I was 21 at the time and in the prime of interest in boxing. Norris was a relatively unknown underdog, and most people (myself included) thought Ray would win the fight over his vastly inexperienced opponent, an opponent who was also thought to be a little chinny. Ray never looked that bad in the past and there was no reason to believe he would suddenly get old and unable to defend himself overnight, as was the case in this fight. Only 4 years prior he defeated Marvin Hagler. Sure there were some signs he was in decline, just as there are some signs May is in decline. I think May's decline will show itself against Ortiz, a young hungry tiger. Mayweather is pushing his luck and eventually it's gonna catch up to him, as it does to almost every fighter. I think Ortiz will be in the right place at the right time when it happens just as Norris was against Leonard.
              Last edited by fitefanSHO; 07-20-2011, 01:04 PM.

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              • jrosales13
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                #37
                Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100
                I find it funny that only one of you have the balls to say what you feel. Alot of you really feel the danger for Mayweather in this fight, and think that he will be ko'ed but don't have the BALLS to say it because, lets face it, we're talking about Mayweather here. You don't want to be embarressed come fight night. This guy is so good that when it comes down to the fight, no one wants to bet against him, and he's been this way his entire career. If thats not an all time great then what is. Stop being **** and speak against him, stop playing it safe by staying neutral, or pretending like you really feel he's gonna win. With all the **** going on in his life,2 year lay off, and facing a menacing, hard hitting ,big, strong, fast and young welterweight, with a solid ameture background, who's smart and versatile in the ring. You know you think Mayweathers ass is grass, your just a coward and wont say it for the record. If Mayweather was to be ko'ed all of you will be on here ASAP saying you knew it all along, that Mayweather couldn't beat a fighter like Ortiz. I'll be seeing bandwagon post , like "War Ortiz" , Ortiz all time great, etc etc. lol
                WTF is this dumbass talking about?

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by fitefanSHO
                  Well, first of all who gives a **** what the idiots have to say, and second of all my memory serves me differently than yours. Not sure your age, but I was 21 at the time and in the prime of interest in boxing. Norris was a relatively unknown underdog, and most people (myself included) thought Ray would win the fight over his vastly inexperienced opponent, an opponent who was also thought to be a little chinny. Ray never looked that bad in the past and there was no reason to believe he would suddenly get old and unable to defend himself overnight, as was the case in this fight. Only 4 years prior he defeated Marvin Hagler. Sure there were some signs he was in decline, just as there are some signs May is in decline. I think May's decline will show itself against Ortiz, a young hungry tiger. Mayweather is pushing his luck and eventually it's gonna catch up to him, as it does to almost every fighter. I think Ortiz will be in the right place at the right time when it happens just as Norris was against Leonard.
                  I wasn't 21 but 20. I would argue Ray really didn't beat Hagler (Hagler is my favorite fighter ever so I'm only slightly biased. 118-112 was ****in robbery). Ray had a longer period of inactivity and had a major eye injury. Plus he was a ccokehead and a drunk. Floyd doesn't drink or use drugs.

                  Those in the "know" about Ray figured he was gonna get beat because of his out of ring lifestyle caused problems for him.

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                  • AKATheMack
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                    #39
                    I can fully understand people thinking Floyd will win, but Im so sick of hearing how Floyd might stop somebody. Hes not stopping anyone unless he manages to knock them into the ring post. Great fighter, but hes not interested in trying to knock people out.

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                    • Wazaa..
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                      #40
                      Ortiz will come into this fight looking for blood. He will put unrelenting pressure on Mayweather from the start and look to get the k.o. I agree about Mayweather adjusting after 4 rounds or so but it will not be enough to keep Ortiz off of him. Ortiz will walk through the counters and continue to maul and rough him up until he either gets the k.o or a clear workmanlike decision.

                      The other thing to consider is Mayweathers age, legs and inactivity. All these factors will contribute to Ortiz getting the win.

                      I predict a late stoppage by Ortiz.

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