Koncz fired? Not so fast says arum, but there's more than meets the eye

[Rip Chudd]

So he wasn't fired. Ok, moving on.

[Mr. Philadel]

**** ***** thread.

I bet you have multiple posts in here...let me check(surveys the thread)...yup!!!...smh

[Kagami Taiga]

Umm...OK??? So...No facts in this article then? Then why bring up the word "facts" if there wasn't any in the article?

actually i thought the article was pretty factual. it used a bunch of first person sources and it wasnt just rumors and speculation, even tho thats what seemed to have caused this problem in the first place.

but it does seem undeniable to me that there is a huge rift in pac's camp. i dont think even pinol would write an article like about this after coming up with it outta think air.

[jrosales13]

actually i thought the article was pretty factual. it used a bunch of first person sources and it wasnt just rumors and speculation, even tho thats what seemed to have caused this problem in the first place.

but it does seem undeniable to me that there is a huge rift in pac's camp. i dont think even pinol would write an article like about this after coming up with it outta think air.

Where is the facts?

The only fact it seems that Koncz firing was a rumor. After that there is no facts just a bunch of speculation.

Arum and Koncz have a speculation on who started a rumor.

Arum and Koncz are speculating that the rumor was started off of jealousy.

Ben Thompson is speculating that there's more that meed the eye.

Apparently(no facts but speculation) that there are people in Pac camp who are speculating that Arum and/or Koncz are not paying Pac everything he has earned.

Like I said the only fact was that Koncz firing was a rumor apparently.'

Besides that nothing but speculation. Yes there is a huge rift in Pac camp...Is nothing new...Matter of fact this "new rift"(same old crap) might be the new promotional distraction that Pac needs to make it seem as JMM has chance to win the fight.

[Kagami Taiga]

Where is the facts?

The only fact it seems that Koncz firing was a rumor. After that there is no facts just a bunch of speculation.

Arum and Koncz have a speculation on who started a rumor.

Arum and Koncz are speculating that the rumor was started off of jealousy.

Ben Thompson is speculating that there's more that meed the eye.

Apparently(no facts but speculation) that there are people in Pac camp who are speculating that Arum and/or Koncz are not paying Pac everything he has earned.

Like I said the only fact was that Koncz firing was a rumor apparently.'

Besides that nothing but speculation. Yes there is a huge rift in Pac camp...Is nothing new...Matter of fact this "new rift"(same old crap) might be the new promotional distraction that Pac needs to make it seem as JMM has chance to win the fight.

factual as in, its actually citing ppl who are on the inside of the situation one way or another. as far as the facts to whats the truth, who knows? at least names were stated this time and it wasnt just phantom sources. but it wasnt hack journalism imo. and ive seen some hack journalism on more than a few occasions. im no huge proponent of fight hype by any means but there was nothing wrong with that article imo.

and i guess ur right about the rift. but ive always kinda dismissed it. could it be manufactured? thats a complete possibility. just makes me wonder whos really running things over there.

[junior gong]

factual as in, its actually citing ppl who are on the inside of the situation one way or another. as far as the facts to whats the truth, who knows? at least names were stated this time and it wasnt just phantom sources. but it wasnt hack journalism imo. and ive seen some hack journalism on more than a few occasions. im no huge proponent of fight hype by any means but there was nothing wrong with that article imo.

and i guess ur right about the rift. but ive always kinda dismissed it. could it be manufactured? thats a complete possibility. just makes me wonder whos really running things over there.

From what I can see, Koncz is there to stop Manny getting ripped off and taken for a ride by the many hangers on that he has around. Manny has been savagely ripped off in the past and has Koncz in place to make sure that doesnt happen. It pains me to say it, but the big nosed **** probably does a good job of making sure Manny keeps his money safe, and that is obviously gonna cause resentment from people that know they would have a clear run at Manny if he wasnt in place.

[Kagami Taiga]

From what I can see, Koncz is there to stop Manny getting ripped off and taken for a ride by the many hangers on that he has around. Manny has been savagely ripped off in the past and has Koncz in place to make sure that doesnt happen. It pains me to say it, but the big nosed **** probably does a good job of making sure Manny keeps his money safe, and that is obviously gonna cause resentment from people that know they would have a clear run at Manny if he wasnt in place.

that may be true, but who protects manny from koncz? he hasnt always looked like he had mannys best interests at heart. from trying to get rid of ariza and roach, two if the more important, irreplaceable members of manny's team, to his idiotic comments about manny's fears about testing, etc. koncz does more than his fair share of ******ity.

[jrosales13]

factual as in, its actually citing ppl who are on the inside of the situation one way or another. as far as the facts to whats the truth, who knows? at least names were stated this time and it wasnt just phantom sources. but it wasnt hack journalism imo. and ive seen some hack journalism on more than a few occasions. im no huge proponent of fight hype by any means but there was nothing wrong with that article imo.

and i guess ur right about the rift. but ive always kinda dismissed it. could it be manufactured? thats a complete possibility. just makes me wonder whos really running things over there.

It didn't cite anybody but Arum and Koncz and Reeno who interviewed Koncz, The guy who first wrote about the rumor, and the writer from the ring online who interviewed Arum. But, the person who actually started the rumor(if this wasn't manufactured) wasn't cited. It still was "phantom sources"

But, that's beyond the point. Because, I never there was anything wrong with the article or claimed it was hacked journalism. One poster claimed that "*******s" or whatever idiotic nicknamed he used won't ready the article because of factual content. I was questioning what exactly was the "facts" in the article.

Fight hype or Ben didn't do anything wrong at all. I was just questioning the poster comments. Because, 98% of this article is speculation.

[junior gong]

that may be true, but who protects manny from koncz? he hasnt always looked like he had mannys best interests at heart. from trying to get rid of ariza and roach, two if the more important, irreplaceable members of manny's team, to his idiotic comments about manny's fears about testing, etc. koncz does more than his fair share of ******ity.

I agree what you are saying about Koncz and I think Manny keeps Koncz in check himself. Its gonna be a lot easier keeping your eye on one guy than it is 10 or 20, also Manny knows that when it comes to his fight preparation Roach and Ariza have been a massively important factor in his success, so he isnt going to listen to Koncz about that side of things.

[EdMon917]

This sucks, Koncz really needs to get lost. Manny needs to kick him to the curb already.