Comments Thread For: Juan Manuel Marquez Vows: It Will Be War With Pacquiao

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  • adp023
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    #81
    Originally posted by willybullet
    BS, Top Rank put their name on it and promoted it in the US and Canada.
    Yea...because Top Rank was only the internet rights holder in the US & Canada for the fight!! There is a HUGE difference between promoters and TV/media rights licensees.

    Where in the promotion, posters, ads and press releases did you see Top Rank's name?? They didn't promote it until they bought the internet rights days before the fight. Fernando Beltran was the promoter!! Did Arum & Beltran make a deal for a fix?? Maybe....or maybe it was all Beltran. Who knows! With all that money on the table for November, Arum is NOT the only one that was nervous last night.
    Last edited by adp023; 07-17-2011, 05:58 PM.

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    • Daniel Alpha
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      #82
      Originally posted by 2stepshep
      The only way I see JMM beating Pac is by KO. And that is not going to happen. Reason being is that with the possibility of the Floyd fight right around the corner after the Marquez fight I just don't see the judges giving it to JMM if it gets to that.

      Can JMM hang with Pac with Pac's added weight? I think he can. People keep saying that Pac has improved since then but based on what? Every opponent that Pac has faced since JMM has not been a counter puncher. Sure they were bigger and stonger than Pac but they would either try to slug it out or try to box while standing or run. None of them tried to counter punch at all.

      JMM is going to give Pac a pretty good fight is what I'm trying to say. But I just don't think he's going to win. I think Pac beats him by decision again.


      What do you mean added weight???

      Do you know that these two warriors have been fighting at WW fight nights?

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      • Bacatit
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        #83
        Originally posted by rckdees
        marquez just happened to knock this guy out in the first round?.......bob arum is a scumbag!!!! this cretin should be spending his final years in levanworth.
        That's why none of this ish even matters anymore. Pac won't take test, so Floyd's a punk, Marquez goes to TR and looks like he's on Pac power without actually looking like he's got Pac power !!!

        Clottey didn't fight, Shane didn't fight, Cotto was destroyed by TR's Marg then Marg is caught cheating.

        At some point you lose touch with all reality or you realize this is all bull****.

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        • Doc Holliday
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          #84
          Originally posted by adp023
          Yea...because Top Rank was only the internet rights holder in the US & Canada for the fight!! There is a HUGE difference between promoters and TV/media rights licensees.

          Where in the promotion, posters, ads and press releases did you see Top Rank's name?? They didn't promote it. Fernando Beltran was the promoter!! Did Arum & Beltran make a deal for a fix?? Maybe....or maybe it was all Beltran. Who knows! With all that money on the table for November, Arum is NOT the only one that was nervous last night.
          [IMG]http://i38.***********.com/albums/e129/willybullet/MARQUEZ-VS-RAMOS-5761.jpg[/IMG]

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            #85
            Originally posted by willybullet
            [IMG]http://i38.***********.com/albums/e129/willybullet/MARQUEZ-VS-RAMOS-5761.jpg[/IMG]
            Corrected! I guess they were co-promoter. Maybe Arum and Beltran were in cohoots! If it was a fix, they should've at least made the bum flop in the 3rd or 4th round!

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            • FloydTBE
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              #86
              pac by UD....

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              • adp023
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                #87
                Originally posted by willybullet
                [IMG]http://i38.***********.com/albums/e129/willybullet/MARQUEZ-VS-RAMOS-5761.jpg[/IMG]
                Back in June 30th, when this card was announced...there is no mention of Top Rank.

                Link: http://www.boxingscene.com/photos-ju...presser--40998

                Top Rank must've come in very late.

                Last edited by adp023; 07-17-2011, 06:25 PM.

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                • Sheppirino
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Daniel Alpha
                  What do you mean added weight???

                  Do you know that these two warriors have been fighting at WW fight nights?
                  Yeah that is true but Pac doesn't have to lose weight to 130 or 135 anymore for the day of the weigh in. Now he can eat as much as he wants and he knows he'll be at the mid 140's anyway. I mean just look at Pac's body now compared to when he last fought Marquez. Looks like he got some bulk to me.

                  Either may JMM is going to be competitive with Pac and that's no doubt. I just said Pac had added weight not added skills. To me his skills are the same. It's just his opponents that make him look like he's better than before. The last counterpuncher Pac faced since JMM was JMM.

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                  • JSS
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Cuban Pete
                    Steroids can't save you now, JMM is irate.

                    JMM KO/EXECUTION 1.
                    I suppose you think that KO was real right? You poor soul!

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                      #90
                      Yea I heard of them silly lol... but pac hasn't faced mayweather or Martinez so why bring them up???

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