How high does Nishioka rate p4p?

[-Kev-]

Then wtf is Andre Ward doing on most peoples P4P list (if this is the criteria)?

Ward is on mine btw, but to say you can only be considered top 10 P4P if you have fought away from home is ridiculous

Nishioka is top 20 P4P IMO, but won't ever crack the top 10 (and i'm a huge fan)

Carl Froch's best win was at home and it was a robbery.

Andre Dirrell is better than Abraham, Pascal, Johnson, and Taylor at 168. Dirrell beat Froch imo.

[Trigg]

Carl Froch's best win was at home and it was a robbery.

Andre Dirrell is better than Abraham, Pascal, Johnson, and Taylor at 168. Dirrell beat Froch imo.

I too had Dirrell beating Carl

I also had Carl beating Kessler

Although I don't know what relevance all this has to do with what merits P4P ranking

[SplitSecond]

never heard of him until now, seems pretty good

[-Kev-]

I too had Dirrell beating Carl

I also had Carl beating Kessler

Although I don't know what relevance all this has to do with what merits P4P ranking

Top 10 P4P ranking is only for the fighters who dominate top fighters consistently. Key word consistently.

You just said you had Dirrell winning the Froch fight. And I saw nobody dominating the Kessler-Froch fight, it was a life and death fight with Kessler edging it.

If top 10 P4P rankings go by "wins" then imo Williams should be in top 10 P4P with his "win" over Lara. P4P rankings take in to account how the fighter looked in his win. Williams ain't no top 10 P4P fighter cause he looked like shit and Lara was robbed. Same for Froch, shitty performance against Dirrell, loss over Kessler, wins over Abraham and Johnson, that's inconsistency. With a loss to Ward, you can forget about it altogether. I don't know how he's in your top 10 P4P with his over Abraham and Johnson. Now with a win over Kessler and Abraham, that would be much better, he woulda been P4P 10. And with a legit win ove Dirrell, he woulda been even higher.

[Trigg]

I don't know how he's in your top 10 P4P with his over Abraham and Johnson

Where did I say Froch was in my Top 10?

[Steak]

I dont have an issue with Froch being top 10. The talent in todays division isnt very deep anyway, and Froch's competition is excellent.