Ross Greenburg should not have been fired

[JoeDaWg]

Pac does not deserve another hbo fight,fight a live body not a guy you ducked for years and will only fight now because your ducking the youth.

That's a ridiculous statement. HBO is a business first, second, and third. Not only did greenburg lose manny for one fight ( a fight that did a monster 1.3 million ), that's a huge loss in revenue alone. But the much bigger issue is now that showtime got a taste of the big bucks HBO is gonna have to do what they're doing right now, and that's engage in a bidding war with their main rival for every pac fight moving forward starting with jmm. The price is gonna keep going up and up. So instead of having the premier money maker in the sport under lock and key, they pissed off his promoter, let their opponent taste blood, and now they find themselves in a war they should have never been in. That's just the pac situation, there have been plenty of other instances of HBO screwing the pooch. How much money did they throw away on that "beast" berto again???

[MARKBNLV]

That's a ridiculous statement. HBO is a business first, second, and third. Not only did greenburg lose manny for one fight ( a fight that did a monster 1.3 million ), that's a huge loss in revenue alone. But the much bigger issue is now that showtime got a taste of the big bucks HBO is gonna have to do what they're doing right now, and that's engage in a bidding war with their main rival for every pac fight moving forward starting with jmm. The price is gonna keep going up and up. So instead of having the premier money maker in the sport under lock and key, they pissed off his promoter, let their opponent taste blood, and now they find themselves in a war they should have never been in. That's just the pac situation, there have been plenty of other instances of HBO screwing the pooch. How much money did they throw away on that "beast" berto again???

Mayweather Pacquiao require ******ed money,they have fans remember that does Mosley Pacquiao raise there profile i think not,they have been outshining hbo for years,either they still showtimes matchmaker or they stfu truth is greenburg needs to handover hbo boxing to some one more in tune with boxing as for the rest he has done a **** up job,oh yeah bring legendary nights back.

[edgarg]

HBO boxing is so atrocious at this point, and if you paid attention for the past 5 yeas and watched slowly, you could watch how it got that way, small decision by small decision, getting behind wrong fighter after wrong fighter, boring card by boring card, the announcers being more interested in bashing boxing than putting over the action, etc. The ONLY good thing to come out of HBO in the past 5 years was 24/7, and even that has been ruined by oversaturation (a 24/7 for every floyd mayweather fight?)

A very good post.

[The Hammer]

HBO's matchmaking has hurt the sport.

Speaking of the Klitschkos, Greenburg wanted Wlad to fight Rahman, and they chose Kevin Johnson for Vitali.

Greenburg insisted Dzinziruk fight Martinez, the one fighter at 154 and 160 he would have absolutely no chance against.

Promoters and fighters should choose their own opponents, HBO should NOT be doing the deciding for them.

[Check]

HBO's matchmaking has hurt the sport.

Speaking of the Klitschkos, Greenburg wanted Wlad to fight Rahman, and they chose Kevin Johnson for Vitali.

Greenburg insisted Dzinziruk fight Martinez, the one fighter at 154 and 160 he would have absolutely no chance against.

Promoters and fighters should choose their own opponents, HBO should NOT be doing the deciding for them.

Well, Greenburgs idea was to match the best fighters against the best. No one in America really wants to see Dzinziruk versus anyone other than Martinez in that division due to the lack of talent. Now I completely stand by that notion that we don't need garbage fights and I applaud Greenburg for what he did with the Pacquaio/Mosley fight but he didn't stay consistent with that. Greenburg gave passes and tune ups to a lot of Haymon fighters and for that he should be fired. If you preach one thing, stick with it across the board.

[bigdlb12]

You are a ****** **** with absolutely zero intellect, so just sit in your little corner and shut the **** up, please. Save us all the misery of reading another one of your barely coherent posts.

hey homie, welcome to boxingscene

[-Kev-]

HBO boxing is so atrocious at this point, and if you paid attention for the past 5 yeas and watched slowly, you could watch how it got that way, small decision by small decision, getting behind wrong fighter after wrong fighter, boring card by boring card, the announcers being more interested in bashing boxing than putting over the action, etc. The ONLY good thing to come out of HBO in the past 5 years was 24/7, and even that has been ruined by oversaturation (a 24/7 for every floyd mayweather fight?)

That's very true. All they do is put fighters down. They take one they like, then praise him for the rest of the fight while throwing the other one under the bus. It frustrates me how can they put down fighters like that? In Showtime, they don't do that, and I hate Showtime outside of the Super 6. Showtime actually tries to comment on the fight instead of putting a fighter down for the whole fight.

[King Ghidorah]

Ok we make 4 bad klit matchups a year does that make you a happy fan,hbo delivers what we want,we wanted alexander bradley we got it you cry

By the way that Tito Ortiz win was the biggest fluke ever.....

[paulf]

Nah Mark, I got to disagree.

One of Greenbergs's jobs is to maintain the quality of HBO Boxing, of which it is supposed the premier network in the sport. Have you looked around lately? Showtime is exceeding HBO in terms of quality with a fraction of HBO's budget. HBO is paying guys like Berto and Paul Williams, who have absolutely zero drawing power, millions of dollars for NO PRACTICAL REASON. They're eating up a huge chunk of HBO's budget simply because they're managed by Al Haymon, who Greenberg has decided to appease.

HBO is completely biased in their boxing program these days, and you can obviously tell who the network wants to win most fights that they air. That is not how it should be done. Look at how Showtime has a 24/7 style show (FC 360) to promote the fights that actually are taking place on Showtime, not PPV. It's turned every single fighter in the Super Six (Outside of Green Haha ) into a star among American fans and has garnered huge interest in the SMW division. No hype, no sob stories, just the fighters themselves telling their stories.

There are so many things that ESPN2 and Showtime are doing better than HBO with a fraction of HBOs budget that it's embarrassing. They could be stacking BAD cards 3 fights deep all three being great match-ups if they weren't doing **** like playing Paul Williams a million bucks coming of a loss for a reason that is not related to ratings or ticket sales.