Alistairem Overeem vs Vitali Klitschko?

[King Ghidorah]

Hari is a better Kickboxer than Overeem, if they have a third match I think he'd win. He actually wanted to go to Boxing as well, but he wouldn't beat anyone even in the top 50 either.

Sergei Kharitonov does..... He does K1, MMA, and he was a Olympian in Boxing....

[Someone88]

Sergei Kharitonov does..... He does K1, MMA, and he was a Olympian in Boxing....

Freddie said that Arlovski has the best Boxing in MMA, he could be technically among the best but he gets koed too much.Sergei is a better Boxer than Overeem, but Dos Santos is the best Boxer at heavyweight in MMA.

[Chaos]

Hari is a better Kickboxer than Overeem, if they have a third match I think he'd win. He actually wanted to go to Boxing as well, but he wouldn't beat anyone even in the top 50 either.

I agree. Overeem would only have a puncher's chance. Hari didn't take the fight or Overeem seriously the first time. It was a few weeks after the WGP where he got disqualified in the final. He didn't rest or train properly. The second time you could see how jacked and serious he was. On his day, if he's not mindf*ucked, he's easily the best kickboxer in the world. Sounds a lot like a boxer I used to follow...

[Chaos]

Freddie said that Arlovski has the best Boxing in MMA, he could be technically among the best but he gets koed too much.Sergei is a better Boxer than Overeem, but Dos Santos is the best Boxer at heavyweight in MMA.

I like Freddy but he's wrong on that one. Maybe it's cause he was training and he's biased. Arlovski has good hands but after 2-3 punches he drops them and starts punching from the waist. He only kept it tight for 2-3 punch combos, then he'd get sloppy.

[Someone88]

I like Freddy but he's wrong on that one. Maybe it's cause he was training and he's biased. Arlovski has good hands but after 2-3 punches he drops them and starts punching from the waist. He only kept it tight for 2-3 punch combos, then he'd get sloppy.

Good points what do you think of Dos Santos?

[FastForward]

lol Vitali would murder him

[iPhoneKiller]

Wow I thought it would be MMA, but boxing?

Overeem has been hurt by punches and is weak in stand up consider to boxers, and heck has been exposed by MMA fighters.

His chin isn't all that, but his stamina is bad. When he punches, he often gets tired and stands there not doing anything.

I like him, but he doesn't 'win' in boxing.

As for kick boxing, he will win. Vitali has the better chance since he won't get knocked out, but he is old and also hasn't done kick icing for years.

[Chaos]

Good points what do you think of Dos Santos?

He's good, but it's too early to know just how good cause he hasn't really been challenged yet. Definitely better standup than Andrei imo. Keep in mind though a lot of these new heavyweight MMA fighters only have 10-15 fights, so they're never going to be that refined skill-wise and since they're always worried about takedowns they'll never have very good standup cause they have to be ready to drop their hands to stuff the dry-humping wrestlers.

[Someone88]

He's good, but it's too early to know just how good cause he hasn't really been challenged yet. Definitely better standup than Andrei imo. Keep in mind though a lot of these new heavyweight MMA fighters only have 10-15 fights, so they're never going to be that refined skill-wise and since they're always worried about takedowns they'll never have very good standup cause they have to be ready to drop their hands to stuff the dry-humping wrestlers.

Good post but not all Wrestlers just lay on top of their opponent. Lesnar, Jones and Cain do a lot of ground and pound. Cain vs Dos Santos is gonna be great!

[Chaos]

Good post but not all Wrestlers just lay on top of their opponent. Lesnar, Jones and Cain do a lot of ground and pound. Cain vs Dos Santos is gonna be great!

Some do, but a lot of them either wall 'n' stall or dryhump cause they don't want to give up control or risk being submitted. The problem is that it's too easy to go for takedowns cause they don't have to worry about knees (cause they'll usually have a knee or hand touching the ground which makes it illegal) or 12-6 elbows.