Judah has no more than a punchers chance against Khan, agree?

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  • Abraham Reyes
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    #21
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    Just think right now you should be WBA champion of the world at 140.
    nah I don't feel like loosing 20 lbs plus titles are adornments anyways.

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      #22
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      Khan is not the sort of guy that kills Judah, a go get you guy is the type of guy that makes Judah fold but that certainly isn't Khan and if he tries that he could end up in a world of hurt.

      Khan can certainly handle him but he needs to worry about the exact same things Judah worries about, if Judah presents more of an issue than you believe how does Khan react, I reckon not well~
      We will just have to see much when he was hurt by Maidana he showed more resolve than Judah has in his career at that point and didn't mentally break down where he could have been stopped.

      They are both vulnerable which does make it interesting and if Khan is sloppy as he has been lately Judah could time that uppercut and I believe Khan would crumble up if hit with it flush.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Abraham Reyes
        nah I don't feel like loosing 20 lbs plus titles are adornments anyways.
        They are only good for collecting dust, you are quite the gent to let Amir keep it.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Stanly Ketchel
          Agreed. Why do you think the fight is happening? If GB and the wild card boys didn't believe Zab only had a puncher's chance, would this fight even be happening? No, it would be morales or someone else. **** they are talking about morales next then a bum in britain, get ready for another yr plus of trash out of a mere's mouth bout he is the best as he won't be facing any real challenges i.e. maidana-guererro winner, rios, mathysse, bradley, etc. Dude is a straight con.

          Yes and who tried to make the Bradley fight you fool.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Spray_resistant
            We will just have to see much when he was hurt by Maidana he showed more resolve than Judah has in his career at that point and didn't mentally break down where he could have been stopped.

            They are both vulnerable which does make it interesting and if Khan is sloppy as he has been lately Judah could time that uppercut and I believe Khan would crumble up if hit with it flush.
            Judah has fought far superior competition, I would expect Khan you get done in badly by most of the guys that beat Judah and made him crack.

            Judah didn't fall apart against Matthysse so I don't see how Khan makes that happen because he will not be able to put on that sort of pressure so I would have to call it mistake for Khan to try that approach.

            If Khan goes in there and is able to do his thing he should win, if Khan messes around or is not at his best then it is anybodys game.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Stanly Ketchel
              Agreed. Why do you think the fight is happening? If GB and the wild card boys didn't believe Zab only had a puncher's chance, would this fight even be happening? No, it would be morales or someone else. **** they are talking about morales next then a bum in britain, get ready for another yr plus of trash out of a mere's mouth bout he is the best as he won't be facing any real challenges i.e. maidana-guererro winner, rios, mathysse, bradley, etc. Dude is a straight con.

              Oh and apart from Bradley, none of them are getting a UD vs Khan.

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              • Pirao
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                #27
                Agreed. It's a similar fight to Wlad-Haye in the sense that Khan is the superior boxer but since he has a shaky chin, the other way has a puncher's chance, but it's unlikely that Judah can capitalize on it.

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                  #28
                  Two things,

                  Zab wasn't being "clearly beaten" by Mabuza (at least, not as I recall it), it was competetive and close,

                  Mabuza is a little better than you've graded him, IMO, C- is somewhat unfair.


                  You're probably correct in the sense that one would have no hesitation whatsoever in backing Khan to overcome the southpaw akwardness and get the job done routinely if you took Judah's power out of the equation - but there's no taking Judah's punch away, and he has more ability with which to land it than many a typical "puncher", so he presents a threat.

                  Amir may still do a comprehensive job, however - he just needs to be smart with Judah and diligently follow whatever plan Roach lays out.
                  Last edited by VERILY; 07-13-2011, 12:16 PM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Pirao
                    Agreed. It's a similar fight to Wlad-Haye in the sense that Khan is the superior boxer but since he has a shaky chin, the other way has a puncher's chance, but it's unlikely that Judah can capitalize on it.
                    I was thinking the same, but imagine if Wlad jumped in on the shorter slightly faster Haye who can crack with recklessness to land a bunch of slaps as Khan has been doing lately.....the HW fight could have gone very differently, if he is smart and wants to win safely he should stay on the jab and use his height.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Adam Konitz
                      Two things,

                      Zab wasn't being "clearly beaten" by Mabuza (at least, not as I recall it), it was competetive and close,

                      Mabuza is a little better than you've graded him, IMO, C- is somewhat unfair.



                      You're probably correct in the sense that one would have no hesitation whatsoever in backing Khan to overcome the southpaw akwardness and get the job done routinely if you took Judah's power out of the equation - but there's no taking Judah's punch away, and he has more ability with which to land it than many a typical "puncher", so he presents a threat.

                      Amir may still get the job done routinely, however, he just needs to be smart with Judah.
                      C'mon Zab was clearly losing that fight, just backing away for most of it and getting out worked. Mabuza is not very good at all either, the unmotivated Holt win made him appear better than he actually is and by proxy now Judah looks better for stopping him when before the stoppage he looked mediocre.

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