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  • #91
    Originally posted by Jakutindi Wauya View Post
    Marquez definitely won the fights but that was back then.Now he's older and Pacquiao has been juicing for a long time
    You got proof or did you go to the Mayweather school of law too?

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    • #92
      Some of you can be pathetic, but some of you can be cool.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Carlos Alberto View Post
        Can you proove that Emmanuel Pacquiao, resident of the Phillipines, a country that is known to be on the cutting edge of PEDs, isn't on PEDs? Can you prove that? I, personally, can't proove that he's on them, but I'm entitled to my opinion; especially when everything points to that direction. Now, I could be wrong, but I don't need to insult anybody who disagrees.
        Cutting edge of PEDS? You kidding me? They are so poor, they can't afford to cut their own grass. Why isn't the Phillipines dominating all sectors or sports then? Why isn't everybody under Roach's tutlage a supreme, unbeatable phenom like Pac then?

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
          WTF how could you justify that when Roach and Ariza constantly say Pac can make 140 with ease , how can you justify forcing Cotto to 145 and in the same breath say he should force JMM a LW all the way to 147 when they tell the world Pac is a natural 140 , you know why they wont go to 140 for JMM because he will have speed and give Manny a war , JMM wanted 142 and they said NO because the lower JMM can be the faster he will be and a counter puncher relies on speed to counter , they have effectively clipped JMM wings at the scales , and considering all things like the trilogy and claims Pac is a 140 , this weight is another case of Pac gaining advantages over his opponents before the bell rings , and then they brag how they will KO him in 5 rounds , since Diaz Manny has become a manipulating hype created plastic hero to a hero starved country .
          once again!! its Marquez whom wants the fight that bad...Has Pacq been fighting at 140? no he hasnt. theres no doubt that he can get down to 140, hell he prolly could get down to 135, the point is hes fighting at the healthy weight he has choosen.. Marquez wanted this fight!! But you forget aswell. Pacqs speed increases aswell if he fought Marq at 140, and hes a better fighter now than then.. Marq wants this payday, he gets it. hes not the shotcaller in this situation.. and atleast Pacq still is gonna be somewhat fair about it due to the fact that, we know hes agreeing to 144 and he WONT be coming in Overweight like someone else did. Whom Marquez was choosen for!!

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          • #95
            Originally posted by mathed View Post
            Cutting edge of PEDS? You kidding me? They are so poor, they can't afford to cut their own grass. Why isn't the Phillipines dominating all sectors or sports then? Why isn't everybody under Roach's tutlage a supreme, unbeatable phenom like Pac then?
            Unbeatable? Uhh really.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Team Vitaminas View Post
              Wtf did you say? Lmao you can work on speed and have it at any weight, whAt you can't do is have more power at a higher weight. That has never happens in the life of the sport! Mayweather had power at the lower divisions but at welterweight it's gone. Don't compare pacquiao's raise to mayweather's cause mayweather has skill not power like a normal Athlete .
              that was completely bias!! pssh

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Alpha & Omega View Post
                Sure thing Ariza...just like Clottey would be stopped, just like Marg would be stopped, just like Shane would be stopped? Manny is not stopping anyone at welterweight, in fact Cotto could have finished the fight and the ref stepped in with what 50 seconds left or something? So basically Manny has not stopped anyone at WW except pathetic weight-drained ODLH who once again, did not continue, but was not stopped. So basically he has not KOed anyone since Hatton.

                It is funny how when Manny makes JMM come up in weight and is overmatched it is ok, but when Floyd did it, it was a joke and unfair. The funny part is Manny still won't stop JMM and JMM will still blast up his face like he has done twice before. Manny cannot beat sharp counterpunchers, because his defense is crap. We would see Manny is far from P4P #1 if he fought anyone who wasn't drained, or plodding, or shot, or old. You will never see Manny in the ring with Bradley, M. Jones, Floyd, Bradley, anyone. Take the test PEDman!
                hmm getting demolished and beatin up badly for 12rds is way worse than getn KOd fool.. in fact you know aswell as everyone else whom watch those above list fights!! that they all shoulda been stopped!! excpt maybe clotteys shoulda been forfeited!
                Last edited by SERVILEV; 07-14-2011, 10:47 AM.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by DominiBox View Post
                  Good point !!
                  IMO, you can improve the speed as you gain weight, but you will be limited at some point.

                  Yes, Manny Pacquiao is fighting now @147 BUT he keeps weighing 143-144 at the weigh in and without exceeding 148 the day of the fight.....

                  Normal welters...even junior welters will go up in weight to 155, 156....160 pounds...Pacquiao is not a normal welter.

                  If he had gone up to those weights without losing speed, then, surely there is something strange.
                  and thus the reason hes not pursuing the rest of his carreer at 154 and up.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Carlos Alberto View Post
                    Can you proove that Emmanuel Pacquiao, resident of the Phillipines, a country that is known to be on the cutting edge of PEDs, isn't on PEDs? Can you prove that? I, personally, can't proove that he's on them, but I'm entitled to my opinion; especially when everything points to that direction. Now, I could be wrong, but I don't need to insult anybody who disagrees.
                    LMFAO! Do you see flying filipinos where you live?!?! I want what they are taking, lol.

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                    • Originally posted by Team Vitaminas View Post
                      what!! forget your bull science crap,yes I agree that as you go up in weight you will hit alot harder but to a point.now you tell me ,how is it that Hatton fighting at 140-147 lbs. is use to getting hit at that weight and a fighter that starts his career at 108lbs can come in and knock you out the way he did? when has it happend in history? there has been countless fighters moving up in weight and where not able to bring their strangth with then.
                      oo so just cuz lil ole u havent ever heard or seen it, makes it Impossible? every fighter is different dude, if all those countless fighters you speak of where the same theyd all be superstars or A+ fighters.. there is such a thing as Special and Gifted fighters. yes both Pacq and Mayw are part of those.

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