Simple question?

[rocco1252]

Somebody cried about a beefed up and jacked Holyfield when it actually mattered, though.

yeah when he was ripping through the division sure, but he was never subject to these non commissioned tests. And you know what he is now considered an all time great maybe even top 10 at that especially for the HW division. *****'s need to let it go because Gayweather was only using this as an excuse to not have to fight someone he could possibly lose to. When all you care about is that 0 in the other column then your willing to do anything in your power to make sure it stays there even if it's not fighting the only person that could solidify your legacy.

For all Floyd does especially talking about how he could beat Pac one hand behind his back and how he is far better then why does it matter if he's on drugs? And I'm not defending Pac nor am I defending PED's in anyway but if your gonna open your mouth and claim to be able to beat someone so easily a drug test and drugs in your system isnt going to make that much of a difference especially when this whole drug test scandal only came up when it came down to making the actual fight way back when.

[Ritchie Kay]

yeah when he was ripping through the division sure, but he was never subject to these non commissioned testing. And you know what he is now considered an all time great maybe even top 10 at that especially for the HW division. *****'s need to let it go because Gayweather was only using this as an excuse to not have to fight someone he could possibly lose to. When all you care about is that 0 in the other column then your willing to do anything in your power to make sure it stays there even if it's fighting the only person that could solidify your legacy.

For all Floyd does especially talking about how he could beat Pac one hand behind his back and how he is far better then why does it matter if he's on drugs? And I'm not defending Pac nor am I defending PED's in anyway but if your gonna open your mouth and claim to be able to beat someone so easily a drug test and drugs in your system isnt going to make that much of a difference especially when this whole drug test scandal only came up when it came down to making the actual fight way back when.

Great post and that is the way i see it

[eklok]

he's a coward and thats what they do , find ways to make the fight not happen

[tangalog2200]

you'd be a fool to think no blood testing is ever done in boxing.i'm sure it is( i know both klitschkos have agreed to testing like that before),but pacquiao is the only one constantly crying about it. that's why is constantly making the news. if your clean just agree to the damned thing and fight...

one issue that is constantly being raised but really only sidestepped or less clarified is "cleaning" the sport...

first, who defines what is "clean"?

2nd, what is the standard of "clean"?

3rd, how do you amend/improve the standard of "clean"?

4th, who are the proven dirty boxers? Can we have a list?

[deejd]

yeah when he was ripping through the division sure, but he was never subject to these non commissioned tests. And you know what he is now considered an all time great maybe even top 10 at that especially for the HW division. *****'s need to let it go because Gayweather was only using this as an excuse to not have to fight someone he could possibly lose to. When all you care about is that 0 in the other column then your willing to do anything in your power to make sure it stays there even if it's not fighting the only person that could solidify your legacy.

For all Floyd does especially talking about how he could beat Pac one hand behind his back and how he is far better then why does it matter if he's on drugs? And I'm not defending Pac nor am I defending PED's in anyway but if your gonna open your mouth and claim to be able to beat someone so easily a drug test and drugs in your system isnt going to make that much of a difference especially when this whole drug test scandal only came up when it came down to making the actual fight way back when.

Another "Gayweather ducked" conspiracy theorist. Hard to believe Mayweather knew Pacquiao would backtrack and come up with numerous excuses and then cutoff dates after initially agreeing to random drug testing. Pathetic. Also, in your second paragraph, you're actually condoning the use of PEDs.

[deejd]

LMAO, right u mean "without" that pesky metal helmet they use as a ***ing weapon? And those pads do a hell of alot of good dip****, how do football players ever get injured with all those wonderful pads on? Have u seen what football players look like when there done playing, they make ex boxers look like 25 year old soccer players. U do know every time u get tackled it's like being in a car wreck don't u? Put ray lewis in full gear, "helmet ram" attached to his head, and he's running full speed at ur ass. Are u telling me getting punched by a roided up boxer is MORE dangerous? Think before u speak, not the other way around :wank:

That's still a bad analogy. Let me know when Peyton Manning travels to Baltimore to play Ray Lewis, it should be interesting to watching Manning play all 11 spots on defense and special teams.

[rocco1252]

Another "Gayweather ducked" conspiracy theorist. Hard to believe Mayweather knew Pacquiao would backtrack and come up with numerous excuses and then cutoff dates after initially agreeing to random drug testing. Pathetic. Also, in your second paragraph, you're actually condoning the use of PEDs.

In your only paragraph you showed your illiterate by posting something without reading the second paragraph your trying to make a point against.

If you had read the actual second paragraph on line 3 I stated I am not defending the use of PED's, which would tell you I'm not condoning the use of PED's therefore debunking your whole claim.

Basically as I stated before in case you failed to read the earlier post was the whole Gayweather Family claimed regardless of what Manny does Little Floyd could easily beat Pac, in one claim I believe they said he could beat him one handed, in another Pac is so one dimensional he wouldnt have to even train. So why not fight and quit finding reasons not to if Pac is so easily beatable? PED's or Not he's still beatable if he's that easy correct? I didnt say it ask the Gayweathers that's their claim.

[deejd]

In your only paragraph you showed your illiterate by posting something without reading the second paragraph your trying to make a point against.

If you had read the actual second paragraph on line 3 I stated I am not defending the use of PED's, which would tell you I'm not condoning the use of PED's therefore debunking your whole claim.

Debunked?

For all Floyd does especially talking about how he could beat Pac one hand behind his back and how he is far better then why does it matter if he's on drugs? And I'm not defending Pac nor am I defending PED's in anyway but if your gonna open your mouth and claim to be able to beat someone so easily a drug test and drugs in your system isnt going to make that much of a difference especially when this whole drug test scandal only came up when it came down to making the actual fight way back when.

In that paragraph, you're contradicting yourself. You're saying that because Mayweather (Sr.) said it would be easy to beat Pacquiao, even with PEDs in his system, that Mayweather (Jr.) should fight him regardless then. Yeah, that's condoning the use of PEDs. It's clear you have an agenda, it's okay, just own up to it instead of throwing a stone and trying to hide your hand.