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  • tatangb45
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    #31
    Originally posted by CONQUERING
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      #32
      Originally posted by CONQUERING
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      • tatangb45
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        #33
        Originally posted by big_james10
        The USADA was neutral a week ago. A week ago, neither Arum nor any of the Pac nuthuggers on this site had any problem with the USADA. Then, all of a sudden, Pac's adviser tells the truth and sticks his foot in his mouth and admits that Pac never agreed to random tests with no cutoff date. The next day, to save face, Arum claims that the USADA is not neutral and all of Pac's zombies on this site jump on the bandwagon.

        Exactly, how is the USADA not neutral. Mayweather is not paying the USADA to conduct the tests for the Ortiz fight and he didn't pay them for the Mosley fight. The promoter pays for the test. In both the cases of the Mosley fight and the Ortiz fight, the promoter has been Golden Boy Promotions. If Mayweather fights Pac, since Arum would be the lead promoter in that fight, Top Rank would pay for the tests. If another agency conducted the tests, Top Rank would pay for them. So would the neutral agency favor Pacquaio since Arum would pay for the tests? Your analogy is total bull****! Bob Arum was lying in June 2010. He lied yesterday! He is lying today! He will lie again tommorrow! And all the *******s will choose to believe whatever lie he tells.
        See post #20.

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          #34
          So childish, all these threads...
          look at the big picture, we get random OST testing then we get a higher chance of the fight happening.

          That's what "real" boxing fans want to see.

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            #35
            Originally posted by tatangb45
            See post #20.
            What the hell does your post #20 have to do with my comment? If the tests are going to be done, they are going to be paid for before the fight is over, not afterwards. The lead promoter will pay for the tests in advance. So what the hell is your point?

            My point is this lame a$$ comment is Bob Arum's attempt to save face in the midst of the ****** comments made by Pacquaio's adviser and the continued criticism of Pac for refusing to take the tests when every other fighter from 140 to 154 is willing to take the tests. Arum had no problem with the USADA's neutrality when he was proposing a 14-day cutoff. Now, he does. Anyone but a ******* can see what is going on.

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              #36
              Originally posted by big_james10
              What the hell does your post #20 have to do with my comment? If the tests are going to be done, they are going to be paid for before the fight is over, not afterwards. The lead promoter will pay for the tests in advance. So what the hell is your point?

              My point is this lame a$$ comment is Bob Arum's attempt to save face in the midst of the ****** comments made by Pacquaio's adviser and the continued criticism of Pac for refusing to take the tests when every other fighter from 140 to 154 is willing to take the tests. Arum had no problem with the USADA's neutrality when he was proposing a 14-day cutoff. Now, he does. Anyone but a ******* can see what is going on.
              Do you not know the word reimbursement?

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                #37
                Originally posted by Mohammedini
                Maybe people should go and read about USADA before they say ****** shiet like this.They are a non-profit organization recognized by the US Congress as the official anti-doping agency for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic sport in the United States. Yeah, that have to mean they are working for Mayweather!
                I got this from the other thread perceiving USADA a bit su****ious...

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                I keep reading how a lot of these Olympic athletes have never tested positive, and how USADA should get off their backs already. But one athlete reportedly testified to the grand jury that he used steroids, and some of the stuff he used was designed to fool the drug tests. Leaking grand jury testimony is deplorable. If USADA's people did that, they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I'm also troubled by how USADA has lessened the burden of proof to sanction an athlete, from a positive test to circumstantial evidence. There's an Oklahoma Land Run quality to USADA's prosecution. But now we're told you can take drugs and still pass the drug tests. So what do we do with that knowledge? How do you catch the people who do that? I've always assumed athletes want their sports to be clean.

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                Armstrong's attorneys say USADA's current offer is for riders to talk to federal investigator Jeff Novitzky, who could then give the information to USADA.

                Presumably, the deal would only be worthwhile for riders who are still competing or young enough to return to competition if a ban was lifted.

                "USADA is promising riders a sweetheart deal if they can produce anything harmful on Armstrong," Herman said. "A rider who has doped, they tell them, 'If you can finger Armstrong, we'll get out the eraser ... and everything is cool.'\u2009"

                Herman said he could not disclose which rider or riders have been offered a deal. In the past Herman has said that, as a private entity, USADA's deal offer is similar to bribery.

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                One of the book’s revelations is Landis’ claim that his consultant, Paul Scott, heard from contacts inside the anti-doping community that USADA declined to pursue two strong cases of doping violations by American athletes in the fall of 2006.

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