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    #41
    Originally posted by Alibata
    It is proposed that WADA oversee the testing... They are still involved... What is not fair about this proposal?... *****s are just nit picking... What losers these guys are..
    The only person reaching here and nitpicking is arum, you have to understand what the WADA means and does before supporting what Arum just said, because Arum promotes Pac doesnt mean you should follow everything he says..

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    • Gino Ros
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      #42
      Originally posted by ThePrince
      USADA has no jurisdiction over professional boxing. The US Congress has only given them authority over the Olympics, Paralympics, and Pan American Games. Plus...
      Mayweather changed his stance Saturday, moving off the hard line he had taken on using USADA as the testing agency.

      "We are OK to move off USADA," Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who is representing Mayweather, told ESPN.com. "What we're saying, and what is important to us, is four things -- that the tests be random, that they include blood and urine and the time frame, meaning when do you stop the tests before the fight but know they will still be effective. Three of them we have agreed on -- random, blood and urine. So now it is a matter of the two sides working out the specifics of the cutoff date to assure it will still be effective."

      Schaefer said those talks are taking place between Bruce Binkow, a high-level Golden Boy executive, and Todd duBoef, the president of Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter.

      "Todd and Bruce are trying to work out the specifics of the cutoff to assure the tests are still effective because we know that 30 days before is not effective," Schaefer said. "At 30 days, we might as well not even do it. We want to figure it out [the cutoff window] and I will give my recommendation to Team Mayweather, and they will be on board. USADA is the most recognized one, but if it's another one, like the Nevada commission, we don't really care. I don't care who performs the tests as long as they are performed. That's our position. If this fight doesn't happen it's not because of Team Mayweather."

      Floyd Mayweather changed his stance Saturday, moving off the hard line he had taken on using USADA as the pre-Pacquiao-Mayweather fight testing agency.


      So unless Floyd/GBP move the goal posts inexplicably again... what's the problem?

      They got the random, unlimited testing that's supposedly prevented Floyd from fighting Pacquiao (). So let the commission, aka the organization that has authority over the match, conduct the testing with WADA overseeing them. Problem solved.

      /Thread.

      Prince,

      If you were assigned to be the mediator, what organization would you select?

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      • Gino Ros
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        #43
        Originally posted by Alibata
        It is proposed that WADA oversee the testing... They are still involved... What is not fair about this proposal?... *****s are just nit picking... What losers these guys are..
        Who proposed WADA?

        WADA DOES NOT PERFORM DRUG TESTING.

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          #44
          Originally posted by mr_kamado10
          WADA is a neutral oraganization....and also credible...since floyd is an american and pacman is a Filipino...so world anti dope agency is preferred agency to do the testing...
          This.

          Why is it so hard for people to understand that?

          Why would Manny agree to be tested by an agency hired by his american opponent who has accused him of cheating?

          Its not as if the USADA is doing testing in other fights. They're only doing it for Floyds fights. I'd be skeptical too and also ask for a third party.


          Why are Floyd stans so against actual testing done by an actual Olympic agency?

          Answer, because they're also against actual random testing.

          They support the random "style", which isn't really random at all,

          but have huge problems with year round testing. Not a secret why.

          Floyd juices on vacations and retirements.

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            #45
            Originally posted by sapo1
            How much more neutral can you get than USADA!!!!! were talking about a company that bust our own olympic athletes in world events!!!


            This is proof that manny pac has never before accepted to take the test!!! I heard freddie roach say in an interview that is on youtube that they accepted the 14day cut off and then in almost the same sentence says they cant do the 14days cuz it would interfear with sparring!!!! and that was straight from freddie roach's mouth so you cant deny it!!!!
            Manny isn't an american citizen. Floyd is.

            Why not just use an agency that isn't from the u.s., or the Phillippines?

            Floyd is getting his random testing is he not?

            Or does everything have to be according to what Floyd dictates?

            Apparently so.

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            • ThePrince
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              #46
              Originally posted by Gino Ros

              Prince,

              If you were assigned to be the mediator, what organization would you select?
              The Nevada commission with WADA/IOC overseeing the testing regime. Makes perfect sense since they are the ones who sanction fights and have the authority to ban/punish/etc fighters if they fail a test. What the hell can USADA do to a fighter who failed a test? This was Arum's point.

              USADA has no jurisdiction in Pro Boxing, if a pro boxer fails are they going to ban them from Olympic competition? They can't do ****. Nevada can because they have actual authority whereas USADA just handles testing for the Floyd Mayweather Boxing Association and has no power or authority.

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                #47
                There is always something not right for this fight, and then on fight night BOOM, the fight is over in the first minute of the first round.. ZzZzZzZzZZZZZzzzzzz

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                  #48
                  floyd has manny connection in USADA as he was able to manipulate his testing against Mosley by ending the testing too earlier, on the 19th day out....so what happened from the 18th leading to the fight...nobody knows...since floyd has connection inside the USADA, he might instruct his insider to exchange his roided blood with PACMAN....just a possibilities...Floyd is an american and USADA might lean on him by planning a bad plan...so WADA a neutral agency is preferred to remove all this doubt out....

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                    #49
                    There is no such thing as a neutral drug testing organization you dumbfucks. It doesn't matter if it is american based or not. They are still testing for drugs. You ****** mothafuckers, talking about neutral organizations. Dumb pieces of shyt.


                    if Floyd is okay with another organization doing it, then whatever. if not, then pacjuice needs to go along with it if he wants to fight.

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                    • Gino Ros
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Exposé
                      This.

                      Why is it so hard for people to understand that?

                      Why would Manny agree to be tested by an agency hired by his american opponent who has accused him of cheating?

                      Its not as if the USADA is doing testing in other fights. They're only doing it for Floyds fights. I'd be skeptical too and also ask for a third party.


                      Why are Floyd stans so against actual testing done by an actual Olympic agency?

                      Answer, because they're also against actual random testing.

                      They support the random "style", which isn't really random at all,

                      but have huge problems with year round testing. Not a secret why.

                      Floyd juices on vacations and retirements.

                      I, FOR ONE, AM NOT OPPOSED TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION DOING IT.

                      The only problem is that a bunch of midgets keep yelling out "WADA" when WADA does NOT perform drug testing. WADA is like the Federal Department of Education. They set standards, but they don't actually run the schools. Get that?

                      And guess who this holy, anointed and heavenly "WADA" entrusts to do the testing? That's right... USADA.

                      Guess which organization has the greatest global influence on WADA? That's right...USADA.

                      Now, explain to me how I'm wrong. I'm listening.

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