Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao Will Take The Tests, Not With USADA

[Gutz]

I don't know fam. Martinez is speedy himself, has power and is technical himself. Homie can take punishment too. If Martinez was to catch Floyd clean like Mosley did, there is a chance it could be a wrap. The thing about Sergio is that he gets better and is hungry, so I believe he would bring the best out of Floyd and Floyd would do the same for him. Pavlik was way bigger and stronger than Floyd (have to keep that in mind). I always said that them two would be a chess match. Better fight than Pac/Floyd because in my opinion. Floyd would mop the ring with lil Pac and so would Martinez. Manny is not in their league. To me. Floyd/Sergio is a 50/50 fight.

Manny p4p #1

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i believe none of them.

it is in manny's capacity to accept floyd's tests. i'm hoping he will eventually decide to do so.

it is ALSO in floyd's capacity to accept the 14 days cutoff. He thought it was reasonable when he offered it to Manny previously, so did Al Haymon and ALL OF GOLDEN BOY.

heck, EVEN VICTOR CONTE THOUGHT 14 DAYS WAS REASONABLE AND PUBLICLY TOLD FLOYD SO.

i'm also hoping that floyd will change his mind again and accept the 14 days he originally offered.

this is all mind games both camps are playing and you are allowing yourself to be ****** in right into it.

i'm firmly convinced that the fight will happen. this is all just one loooong soap opera we are being shown and its up to you to be drawn into it or not.

Exactly, those excuses were absolute rubbish.

So how can you possibly condone a needless action that just so happened to kill the biggest fight in boxing history?

" you are allowing yourself to be ****** in "

Smarten up and ask yourself why Manny killed the fight over something absurd - let alone contentious - like OSDT's, and then supplied 7 ridiculous reasons why.

So, if you think that Pac has no excuse whatsoever to duck the random blood tests, then what do you think of the " lawsuit " ?

How the *** can you admit that Pac has no excuse whatsoever to duck the random blood tests, so therefore the "lawsuit" is completely unjustified and just another roadblock, and also admit that this situation is like a "soap opera"..... and yet not lay the blame fairly and squarely at Pacquiao's feet?

2 + 2 = 5 ?

Also, if you did not believe any of those 7 ridiculous excuses, and you admit that there is no reason whatsoever for Manny to refuse the OSDT's, then you also admit that to make that fight happen all Manny had to do was take the tests. We actually know that already.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27427

So, what so you think of those fkn idiots who try to insinuate that the OSDT request was Mayweathers way of trying to duck the fight, but then cannot explain why Manny did not simply call his "bluff" and take the test?

Why would those posters make up something so absurd, Manny could have simply called Mayweathers " bluff " and taken the test ?

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THANK YOU!

i'm glad at least someone here appreciates my seemingly futile attempt at a civil discourse.

Yes, I will admit, you are very polite when you talk ****.

[Brother Jay]

I don't know fam. Martinez is speedy himself, has power and is technical himself. Homie can take punishment too. If Martinez was to catch Floyd clean like Mosley did, there is a chance it could be a wrap. The thing about Sergio is that he gets better and is hungry, so I believe he would bring the best out of Floyd and Floyd would do the same for him. Pavlik was way bigger and stronger than Floyd (have to keep that in mind). I always said that them two would be a chess match. Better fight than Pac/Floyd because in my opinion. Floyd would mop the ring with lil Pac and so would Martinez. Manny is not in their league. To me. Floyd/Sergio is a 50/50 fight.

I'm not saying that it would be easy, Brother Grustler. I'm saying that I've watched Martinez get handled by Paul Williams in close the first match. I've watched the limited Kelly Pavlik have his way with Martinez for the first half of their fight. Neither of these guys were using power to handle him either. You don't have hurt him to outbox him. And Martinez ain't carrying exceptional power.

Some people watch his fight against Williams and think that the guy has dynamite in his hands. Just another tell tale sign of mutha fcukers who don't know boxing. A punch that you don't see is a punch that will pay dividends even if its delivered by a fighter with mediocre power.

That's exactly the way Ricardo Mayorga .. a notorious arm puncher ... knocked out Vernon Forrest. Its the same way that Devon Alexander knocked out Juan Urango. You don't have to carry extraordinary power to do what Martinez did. Floyd did the same thing to Hatton.

Martinez does NOT typically win that way, and he only seems as fast as he does because he's fighting slow, methodical type fighters like Williams and Pavlik. You have yet to see someone who can box better than Martinez and is faster than him compete against him.

I'm not saying is an easy fight. I'm not saying that it would be a walk in the park. I am saying that Martinez has gained fame from his wins over Pavlik and Williams, and in his entire career that is all he's ever done aside from being knocked out by Antonio Margarito at 147lbs.

I like Martinez a lot. I think he has the potential to do great things in boxing, but let's not put him leaps and bounds above elite fighters. He's has hasn't even done enough to be on the same tier.

Just because Sergio beat two fighters who had already been exposed[Pavlik by Hopkins/Williams by Quintana] doesn't make him elite. All it means is that he saw weakness, felt confident that he could exploit those exposed weaknesses himself and took the fights.

Sometimes you have to see the game and not just the performance. Had Pavlik and Williams never been exposed, those wins would be more meaningful. But when the blueprint to beating a man is laid out for you in a 12 round living example, its more or less playing the "I can do anything you can do better!" card.

I think that Mayweather would have a great chance if Sergio came in at 154lbs. I think that if Williams, as disgraceful as his last fight was, got a trainer who would teach him adjustments that would make him less vulnerable to the overhand left ... the flaw Quintana originally exposed, Sergio exploited, and Lara followed ... he would beat Sergio.

I don't know how eager Mayweather is to go up to 154lbs and fight Sergio, but I know if he did there would be no credible comparisons to what he has accomplished in this era.

Cheers

[Brother Jay]

Exactly, those excuses were absolute rubbish.

So how can you possibly condone a needless action that just so happened to kill the biggest fight in boxing history?

" you are allowing yourself to be ****** in "

Smarten up and ask yourself why Manny killed the fight over something absurd - let alone contentious - like OSDT's, and then supplied 7 ridiculous reasons why.

So, if you think that Pac has no excuse whatsoever to duck the random blood tests, then what do you think of the " lawsuit " ?

How the *** can you admit that Pac has no excuse whatsoever to duck the random blood tests, so therefore the "lawsuit" is completely unjustified and just another roadblock, and also admit that this situation is like a "soap opera"..... and yet not lay the blame fairly and squarely at Pacquiao's feet?

2 + 2 = 5 ?

Also, if you did not believe any of those 7 ridiculous excuses, and you admit that there is no reason whatsoever for Manny to refuse the OSDT's, then you also admit that to make that fight happen all Manny had to do was take the tests. We actually know that already.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27427

So, what so you think of those fkn idiots who try to insinuate that the OSDT request was Mayweathers way of trying to duck the fight, but then cannot explain why Manny did not simply call his "bluff" and take the test?

Why would those posters make up something so absurd, Manny could have simply called Mayweathers " bluff " and taken the test ?

Simply outstanding. Bravo.

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Bob Arum is full-of-it.....

" we adhere strictly to the WADA code and all of the international standards "
~ Annie Skinner (USADA)
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/conte...03b3b13f003e67

[igami07]

Answer these two questions, Mr " pacfan with such high moral standards ".

1.) Team Pacquiao gave a grand total of 7 different ridiculous excuses to justify why Manny would not undertake random blood tests without a 24-day cutoff..... which is absurd, because requiring 7 different excuses means that none of them were genuine.

Which one of those 7 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

Come on man, you must have found one of those excuses to be reasonable, otherwise..... how could you possibly condone a needless action that killed the biggest fight in boxing history?

Plus, your answer will tell me exactly where you are at in terms of your honesty, and integrity, as well as your boxing knowledge.

Which one of those 7 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

2.) Give me your honest opinion.....

After the Collins/Resto fight, the Collins family sued the commission for failing to protect their son. Bob Arum stated that the lawsuit was " pathetic ".

How does Arum's viewpoint regarding the Pacquiao " lawsuit " compare with his viewpoint regarding the lawsuit that was filed by the Collins family?

KEYWORD: " pathetic ".

This'll be interesting.....

I only hear this 7 ridiculous excuses from you.. I've never heard it in ESPN or any Sport related news..in fact your the only one posting this "7 ridiculous excuses" saw it many times whenever manny's name is involved you never failed to post that.. or you might hoping someday this "7 ridiculous excuses" of yours will be noted in some news..and you will proudly say "that one came from me?" is that your goal? get a life...

I really don't understand you all people, all of us wants this fight to happen and when there is the possibility that it will..boom here you are, throwing all the negativity, hates and rants.. at least give some props to the people involved that they making this fight happened...

if you really had a problem with pacman tell this "7 ridiculous excuses" in his face I know he had a official website somewhere.. and I know you know it too, because you are well informed in boxing your genius in boxing you all know whats happening in boxing, I dare you, tell this "7 ridiculous" excuses to pac himself...maybe he can give you the answer that you want...

[jtiger777]

U know the end is near when a test takes up 34 pages on a thread!!!!!!!!!! Just a test right?

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I only hear this 7 ridiculous excuses from you.. I've never heard it in ESPN or any Sport related news..in fact your the only one posting this "7 ridiculous excuses" saw it many times whenever manny's name is involved you never failed to post that.. or you might hoping someday this "7 ridiculous excuses" of yours will be noted in some news..and you will proudly say "that one came from me?" is that your goal? get a life...

I really don't understand you all people, all of us wants this fight to happen and when there is the possibility that it will..boom here you are, throwing all the negativity, hates and rants.. at least give some props to the people involved that they making this fight happened...

if you really had a problem with pacman tell this "7 ridiculous excuses" in his face I know he had a official website somewhere.. and I know you know it too, because you are well informed in boxing your genius in boxing you all know whats happening in boxing, I dare you, tell this "7 ridiculous" excuses to pac himself...maybe he can give you the answer that you want...

Dont whine at me b1tch.

And btw, there are now 8 ridiculous excuses, you must be so proud.

* " I dont like needles "

* " taking my blood the day before the fight will weaken me "

* " I am too proud to take the test "

* " Floyd is not the commission "

* " taking my blood will affect my training, even 23-days from the fight "

* " I feel too disrespected to take the test "

* " he is bigger than me, so it will weaken me, more than him "

* " USADA are corrupt "

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BOB ARUM IS FULL-OF-IT, AND SO IS MANNY PACQUIAO !!

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/conte...44a1b91f10374f