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  • Originally posted by Alibata View Post
    I don't know,, but with me,, and this I swear is a very honest opinion.. I would be paranoid of using USADA knowing that they are sponsored by the person vehemently accusing me of PEDs.. Who is to say that nothing illegal could take place.. USADA wants to prove they are effective and necessary for boxing, Floyd wants to prove his accusations had merit.. I would be paranoid. What more then the biggest fight in which this is a big issue to make a point.

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    • The ball is now in Floyd's court... Let's see what he does with it.

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      • If the fight can happen that's great!

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        • So what if Money loses to a young hungry powerful fighter and Pac loses to a determined hall of famer. Will any of this matter?

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          • Originally posted by AceBoeing View Post
            Because ignorant people like you are still talking about it. It doesn't matter that he has fights lined up his reputation still got damaged. Moseley a known steroid users still got a fight against Floyd. Getting connected to steroids is like getting connected to ******** on the sports you play for. As long as people like you are talking about it his reputation is damaged. and the fact that Floyd publicly said Pac was using he contributed to the damages to Pacs
            reputation. The sad part about this is even when everything has been said and done and they end up fighting, *****s will still be saying those damaging things. Especially when Fraud loses the fight and not get a rematch.
            Genius, he got that fight because HE TOOK THE TEST !!

            Originally posted by AceBoeing View Post
            That's exactly what this is about, that "0". He will never let Pac get that chance, because he knows Pac will take it.
            What the hell are you on dude, Pac had the chance. The fight died because Manny would not undertake random blood tests without a 24-day cutoff.....
            http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27427
            http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde..._report_t.html

            Why are you here ?

            Is your Manny-doll broken ?

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            • Originally posted by ThePrince View Post
              USADA has no jurisdiction over professional boxing. The US Congress has only given them authority over the Olympics, Paralympics, and Pan American Games. Plus...
              Mayweather changed his stance Saturday, moving off the hard line he had taken on using USADA as the testing agency.

              "We are OK to move off USADA," Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who is representing Mayweather, told ESPN.com. "What we're saying, and what is important to us, is four things -- that the tests be random, that they include blood and urine and the time frame, meaning when do you stop the tests before the fight but know they will still be effective. Three of them we have agreed on -- random, blood and urine. So now it is a matter of the two sides working out the specifics of the cutoff date to assure it will still be effective."

              Schaefer said those talks are taking place between Bruce Binkow, a high-level Golden Boy executive, and Todd duBoef, the president of Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter.

              "Todd and Bruce are trying to work out the specifics of the cutoff to assure the tests are still effective because we know that 30 days before is not effective," Schaefer said. "At 30 days, we might as well not even do it. We want to figure it out [the cutoff window] and I will give my recommendation to Team Mayweather, and they will be on board. USADA is the most recognized one, but if it's another one, like the Nevada commission, we don't really care. I don't care who performs the tests as long as they are performed. That's our position. If this fight doesn't happen it's not because of Team Mayweather."

              http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4772853

              So unless Floyd/GBP move the goal posts inexplicably again... what's the problem?

              They got the random, unlimited testing that's supposedly prevented Floyd from fighting Pacquiao (). So let the commission, aka the organization that has authority over the match, conduct the testing with WADA overseeing them. Problem solved.

              /Thread.
              This is the best post in the thread, but nobody is reading or responding to it. Well, the Jackass *****s aren't, and the extreme *******s aren't either.

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              • Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
                making a request out of the request is just ****** at this point, you know what mayweather wants to do, you know who he has used for two fights in a row, you cant have it all on your terms, especially changing organizations.

                this is not likely to produce a fight at all.
                This is really the comment that puts it into perspective. After making demands about gloves, ring size, penalty per pound, purse split even though Pac is not the draw or the #1 WW, there is no way Pacquiao is going to be able to manipulate the one demand Floyd has made. This is desperate and pathetic.

                Originally posted by Gino Ros View Post
                I, FOR ONE, AM NOT OPPOSED TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION DOING IT.

                The only problem is that a bunch of midgets keep yelling out "WADA" when WADA does NOT perform drug testing. WADA is like the Federal Department of Education. They set standards, but they don't actually run the schools. Get that?

                And guess who this holy, anointed and heavenly "WADA" entrusts to do the testing? That's right... USADA.

                Guess which organization has the greatest global influence on WADA? That's right...USADA.

                Now, explain to me how I'm wrong. I'm listening.
                What's so refreshing about this comment is that he just smacked *******s in the face with the facts as if they were a boat oar. That **** has got to sting! USADA is the world standard as the Olympics is a global event. USADA is THEE most trusted and thorough organization in the world.

                Originally posted by Exposé View Post
                Nobody in their right mind would.

                Its like you having beef with someone at your job. That person accuses you of doing drugs on your break. The accuser offers to pay for your drug test so you can prove your innocence.

                ******ed.
                What's ******ed is your poorly thought out analogy. If someone at your job thought you were smoking weed, and your job had a zero tolerance policy, all they would have to do is report you to human resources and that department would call you in and test you. They don't owe you an explanation for the testing. Unless its a probationary period where its stipulated that the job must wait a certain amount of time before testing again, they don't have to have reason to test you.

                So with that said, it wouldn't matter who is paying for the tests. If you're dirty your asss is done. The job wouldn't allow the employee to pick who tested him at that point. He would either take the test or be terminated.

                Pacquiao can take the test or his word and his promoter's word will be ****. A man is only as good as his word.

                Originally posted by edgarg View Post
                You shouldn't make comments which expose that you haven't read the article properly.

                This is a NEGOTIATION. Mayweather cannot lay down terms such as have never before been heard of in Pro boxing and expect to have the tests done by his own pet lab.
                Mayweather IS NOT laying down terms that have never before been heard of in boxing. This has been done before. Across the forum, I schooled *******s like you about the Mike Tyson/Evander Holyfield match where Tyson demanded that Holyfield take PED tests. Tyson himself didn't take those tests along with Evander either! Arum is playing on the ignorance and illiteracy of the Filipino people. He knows that they are not big boxing fans. They are fans of other Filipinos, but passed that point they don't know **** about boxing. That's why Arum can make claims like "Floyd is making never before heard of terms". And to call USADA Floyd's pet lab is like calling the USA Floyd's personal sparring grounds. Pathetic.

                Originally posted by edgarg View Post
                Arum QUITE RIGHTLY says that they want a NEUTRAL tester, and suggests that one of the Labs who have been conducting THE OLYMPIC tests should be OK. They don't want a possibly partial US lab which has worked for Mayweather twice already. Manny P is not an American, but a foreigner. Will Mayweather agree to a Philipino Judge or Ref???
                Arum is refusing USADA because he knows that they are the most thorough and respected standard in the world. USADA is the GOLD STANDARD, but Arum says a silver or bronze standard would be more preferred? That sounds about right coming from Arum and Pacquiao.

                Originally posted by edgarg View Post
                I see this as eminently reasonable and an intelligent compromise. WHO BETTER to conduct Olympic style testing than a legitimate OLYMPIC TESTING LABORATORY???? Eh???
                Did Pacquiao compromise on the 50/50 split? No because Arum gets most of Pacquiao's cut! Arum wants money! He doesn't care about Pacquiao. Did Pacquiao compromise on the $10 million per pound? Pacquiao is looking more and more su****ious and desperate.

                Originally posted by edgarg View Post
                So what the hell is all the fuss about?? Nobody is robbing your grandmother.
                Nobody is forcing Pacquiao to sign either. Mayweather is P4P#1. Mayweather is the #1 WW. Mayweather is the #1 draw and most watched boxer in history. Mayweather is fighting the other WW champion. If Pacquiao and Arum want to jerk each other off and come up with ways to try to avoid a fight with Floyd, let them have at it. They know the demands. They know the conditions. Everything after that is just semantics and insecurity.

                Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
                So now Manny is no longer afraid of needles or blood,etc....it is USADA! lmfao
                LMAO .. exactly. After 3 years of excuses, the excuses have been replaced by new excuses and no longer factor in. This is indicative of a fighter who is stalling because he lacks confidence in his ability to win without the juice being loose.

                Originally posted by edgarg View Post
                Mayweather didn't just "ask for drug testing"....He asked for, DEMANDED that there should be testing done, that has NEVER before been done, in a professional Boxing match, anywhere in the whole world.

                That's a bit different from "just asked for drug testing"....... At least slightly.

                you should have been writing some of the blurbs about the great faker Haye....maybe you were.
                Again peasant, look up Tyson/Holyfield. That was 14-15 years ago! Nothing new to boxing. That's only new to ******* peasants who have only been watching boxing since Manny fought Barrera. Its been done. Its also been fulfilled! Only Pacquiao "The Pinoy Pusssy" has avoided the tests because his heart is pumping that illegal Kool-Aid.

                Floyd Mayweather took them!
                Shane Mosley took them!
                Victor Ortiz is taking them!
                Whoever is next will take them without question!

                Every boxer that thinks that they could make the weight has gone on record to say that they were willing to take any and every tests Floyd wants. Not just USADA tests!

                Pacquiao is being made to look like a fcuking fool.

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                • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                  Speak English kid your mouth is moving but your saying nothing , the fight will be easy for Floyd and then you can have a big cry and change your name .
                  I don’t think that is it impossible for a guy to weight 130 at the age of 30 to go up to 142 that does not seem impossible. But what really seems ****** is how you could write all these little remarks next to dlh, Hatton, margarito, cotto and Diaz and say they were weight drained and the rest. Is floyd maynure washed up and old? Why does maynure need a fair fight against a fighter that is beating weight drained bums and ruined hyped up fighters? Isn’t maynure the top p4p fighter in boxing not a washed up bum? These are questions you have to ask yourself and man up. They both weight at 106 when they were 16 and they are only two inches apart just like Martinez is 2 inches taller than maynure. Can you answer this why is coward also dodging Sergio Martinez? maynure is sad for boxing!!!!!

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                  • Whatever man I'm done with this **** as long as Floyd keeps fighting after this imma be happy regardless whether the Pac fight happens or not

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                    • Originally posted by 1prodz View Post
                      I don’t think that is it impossible for a guy to weight 130 at the age of 30 to go up to 142 that does not seem impossible. But what really seems ****** is how you could write all these little remarks next to dlh, Hatton, margarito, cotto and Diaz and say they were weight drained and the rest. Is floyd maynure washed up and old? Why does maynure need a fair fight against a fighter that is beating weight drained bums and ruined hyped up fighters? Isn’t maynure the top p4p fighter in boxing not a washed up bum? These are questions you have to ask yourself and man up. They both weight at 106 when they were 16 and they are only two inches apart just like Martinez is 2 inches taller than maynure. Can you answer this why is coward also dodging Sergio Martinez? maynure is sad for boxing!!!!!
                      This is the typical pinoy peasant logic:

                      Originally posted by 1prodz View Post
                      Why does maynure need a fair fight against a fighter that is beating weight drained bums and ruined hyped up fighters?
                      I mean .. is there anything left to say? How ****** do they grow them on Mudslide Island? These idiots are really challenging the desire for fairness and transparency.

                      You live as peasants, and you will die as ignorant asss, uneducated peasants who hold on to the hope of a false idol who would sell your daughters on street corners if it meant earning his Pappy Arum another buck.

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