So Jesus Gonzales beat Andre Ward, Angulo, Berto (FOUR times) and Powell?

[BoxerDood]

That's an amazing amateur record. I've never seen the guy fight, but with those names he must be pretty good. Has anyone seen him fight? If so, how good is he?

But what I don't get is this one thing. Ward said he hasn't lost a fight since he was 12. So either that fight was a looooong time ago or he lied.

[-Kev-]

Wasn't Andre Ward's last loss when he was 13? I don't think beating a 13 year old should be considered a feat.

Plus didn't D. Hopkins beat Holt in the amateurs something like 2 out of 3 times? Correct me if i'm wrong. We saw who won in the pro fight.

David Diaz beat Judah in the ams. Andre Berto beat Andre Dirrell twice and Timothy Bradley once, in the ams. But all of these guys are all in completely different levels from eachother as pros.

[BoxerDood]

Wasn't Andre Ward's last loss when he was 13? I don't think beating a 13 year old should be considered a feat.

Plus didn't D. Hopkins beat Holt in the amateurs something like 2 out of 3 times? Correct me if i'm wrong. We saw who won in the pro fight.

David Diaz beat Judah in the ams. Andre Berto beat Andre Dirrell twice and Timothy Bradley once, in the ams. But all of these guys are all in completely different levels from eachother as pros.

I'm not saying he's better than any of those guys. I'm just saying that's a pretty good record and it caught my attention. And I agree about Ward. That must have been back when he was a kid.

[dabezt2]

Thats a damn good resume for the amatures. Never herd of him before and he is a local guy, it looks like top rank is bringing him along slowly, very slowly