Comments Thread For: Emanuel Steward Reveals David Haye's Big Flaw, Gifts

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  • Malius
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    #31
    Haye was off-balance cos he had a boo boo on his toe...DUH!

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    • edgarg
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      #32
      Originally posted by texasboi15
      fellow posters take note at how steward's final analysis of david haye doesn't include fear, scared or coward. when critquing, we must all do a better job, subjectively (not personally), analyzing and debating one's performance whether it be good or bad.
      I think you mean "objectively"........because "subjectively" is "personally".......

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        #33
        Originally posted by LeadUppercut
        Great point though, just as-is the case with all of the Canelo/Chavez/Khan/Bradley/etc, haters, the Haye-haters have ALL been proven to be full-of-****. I am just referring to the posters who masterfully deduced that Haye was "scared", not the other anti-Haye fans who just think that he's a ****.

        I stated this about a year-and-a-half-ago.....
        " when that fight happens, we will know that all of the posters who stated that Haye is a "coward" dont know **** about boxing ".

        This must be when I am supposed to take the moral high-ground and humbly change the subject, rather than annoying people by rubbing dirt in their face?

        Nah, *** that, all of you clowns who have never been to a gym, and yet run around calling a professional prize-fighter a coward, don't know **** about boxing

        And speaking of full-of-****, that will also apply to all of the Mayweather haters who run around pulling out the old "coward" card, and yes, I will remind you all personally of that fact when your little world starts to cave in
        Well, I think that I can be as objective as the next, and I believe that he behaved as if he were closed in a cage with a tiger. The way he was racing around the ring, sometimes turning his back and running right across the whole ring etc. it was a pathetic extremely amateurish exhibition. he fought Ruiz completely differently, which was the first time I'd seen him. Klitschko was just as disappointing in a different way.

        I've NEVER before seen such a wide distance between two fighters who were posturing and making threatening hand movements, before this fight. It was obvious, even though one of them was Klitschko, that they couldn't reach each other without at least a full step in, and there were few if any closer movements, to try to entice someone to throw. That's why, when Haye finally threw something he had to reach from so far away, that he was overbalancing all the time, and trying to recover without being hit, by racing away as fast as he could. It was worse than amateurish.

        It was something like the Valuev fight except that Haye had to move much faster.

        Sometimes it was like what you see on Youtube of "the worst fight I've ever seen" etc, between a guy who HAD been in the ring and a guy who hadn't.....

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          #34
          Giving David Haye credit just for showing up and saying that makes it wrong to call him a coward is a ludicrous statement.

          It's like giving a guy who is afraid of roller coasters a pat on the back because he bought a ticket to the amusement park and walked through the gates before refusing to get on the ride.

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          • JohnnyQuppercut
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            #35
            Originally posted by Hitman932
            Giving David Haye credit just for showing up and saying that makes it wrong to call him a coward is a ludicrous statement.

            It's like giving a guy who is afraid of roller coasters a pat on the back because he bought a ticket to the amusement park and walked through the gates before refusing to get on the ride.
            I think Wlad was just as scared of Haye if not more so.

            Wlad told everyone he was going to punish Haye for what he said... and then he threw maybe 10 right hands in the entire fight.

            He played it safe as could be.

            Both those guys fought scared and it made for yet another crappy heavyweight fight.

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            • LeadUppercut
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              #36
              Originally posted by edgarg
              Well, I think that I can be as objective as the next, and I believe that he behaved as if he were closed in a cage with a tiger. The way he was racing around the ring, sometimes turning his back and running right across the whole ring etc. it was a pathetic extremely amateurish exhibition. he fought Ruiz completely differently, which was the first time I'd seen him. Klitschko was just as disappointing in a different way.

              I've NEVER before seen such a wide distance between two fighters who were posturing and making threatening hand movements, before this fight. It was obvious, even though one of them was Klitschko, that they couldn't reach each other without at least a full step in, and there were few if any closer movements, to try to entice someone to throw. That's why, when Haye finally threw something he had to reach from so far away, that he was overbalancing all the time, and trying to recover without being hit, by racing away as fast as he could. It was worse than amateurish.

              It was something like the Valuev fight except that Haye had to move much faster.

              Sometimes it was like what you see on Youtube of "the worst fight I've ever seen" etc, between a guy who HAD been in the ring and a guy who hadn't.....
              Cant argue with too much you said there.

              Although, in a bout where one fighter held such significant physical advantages over the other, you couldn't really expect too much more than that.

              Before that fight nobody thought of Haye as a masterful technician who would control the distance, and everybody knew Wlad's strengths.

              I was actually surprised at how effective Haye's jab was at times.

              The heavyweight division..... meh.

              And the HW div will not suddenly " liven up " because a star just happens to roll along, we need a division full of competitive fighters, but they are all (wisely) playing football/basketball.

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              • LeadUppercut
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                #37
                Originally posted by Hitman932
                Giving David Haye credit just for showing up and saying that makes it wrong to call him a coward is a ludicrous statement.

                It's like giving a guy who is afraid of roller coasters a pat on the back because he bought a ticket to the amusement park and walked through the gates before refusing to get on the ride.
                No it is not.

                The posters that I was refering to categorically stated that " Haye is a coward, and he will NEVER get in the ring with a Klitschko ".

                It was naive to think that he would not take that massive payday and double his career earnings to date. He is a prizefighter after all, so it was a knee-jerk fanboy stance to insist that Haye would not take that payday.

                I never thought Haye would win the fight, but I knew he would take it.
                Last edited by LeadUppercut; 07-09-2011, 05:01 PM.

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                • Klitschko2011
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by JohnnyQuppercut
                  I think Wlad was just as scared of Haye if not more so.

                  Wlad told everyone he was going to punish Haye for what he said... and then he threw maybe 10 right hands in the entire fight.

                  He played it safe as could be.

                  Both those guys fought scared and it made for yet another crappy heavyweight fight.
                  Another blind delusional ******ed Klitschko hater.

                  Did you even watch the fight?

                  Haye was scared shitless. He pulled a Kevin Johnson. He was in survival mode from start to finish. He ran like a scared girl from Wlad the whole fight and was flopping around the ring like a coward

                  Wlad dominated the fight. He won every round. He was the dominant aggressor from start to finish. He controlled the entire fight. He threw twice as many punches as Haye. He landed twice as many punches as Haye. He hurt Haye several times and made him spend the entire fight running for his life, diving and flopping around the ring like a coward.

                  I scored it 120-107 for Wlad.

                  Great performance by Wlad.

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                  • Macks
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                    lol@wlad is faster than haye

                    wlad himself said hitting haye is like trying to catch a slippery fish with ur bare hands, the guy was very quick, he didnt allow wlad to counter the right

                    wlad has never faced a man so fast, thus is why Haye's face was hardly marked up

                    haye should have watched a few tyson fights and leanred how to slip a jab, got on the inside and unleashed his power shots, instead he choose to spring from a distance, which only landed a few times....

                    emanuel teaches his boxers how to coil out without needing to spring forwards, you can generate more power with ur feet planted....theres a video of lennox teaching eubank how to do it
                    eddie chambers is really fast as well.

                    the difference here was that haye never slowed down like all the other fast guys wlad has ko'd late in the fight. hayes conditioning is top notch.

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                    • LeadUppercut
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Klitschko2011
                      Another blind delusional ******ed Klitschko hater.

                      Did you even watch the fight?

                      Haye was scared shitless. He pulled a Kevin Johnson. He was in survival mode from start to finish. He ran like a scared girl from Wlad the whole fight and was flopping around the ring like a coward

                      Wlad dominated the fight. He won every round. He was the dominant aggressor from start to finish. He controlled the entire fight. He threw twice as many punches as Haye. He landed twice as many punches as Haye. He hurt Haye several times and made him spend the entire fight running for his life, diving and flopping around the ring like a coward.

                      I scored it 120-107 for Wlad.

                      Great performance by Wlad.
                      He was completely physically outmatched, and could not get any sort of game going against the consistant pressure/defense of Klitschko.

                      Did you expect Haye to win ?

                      " Great performance by Wlad ".

                      Haye is a blown-up cruiser who has never fought a top HW, and Wlad never had him in trouble once.

                      It was a tight solid performance, as usual. Nobody who will fight Wlad can beat him at heavy.

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