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  • sweetscience18
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    #41
    Originally posted by Boxingtech718v2
    Pac would be giving up weight and strength on the inside I don't think we are going to see him go there at WW.
    Thats what im getting to..fighting on the inside might be where his biggest weakness is with floyd.

    Weve all seen how well floyd potshots, leading with the right hand and then falling into your opponent is one if the best ways to initiate a clinche where youll be able to control your opponent. When you have someone throw a punch at you when your off balance and then they immediately put there bodyweight on you, the push off and score some solid shots, it takes alot away from you.

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    • iPhoneKiller
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      #42
      Originally posted by sweetscience18
      When I say inside fighting I dont mean two fighters standing close to eachother and throwing punches..i mean a real clinche fight.

      When fighters are leaning on eachother, have arms tangled. The type of fight where two guys are constantly pushing against eachother and bumping off with there shoulders and elbows and fighting for better position. Usually this type of fighting is only allowed with certain referees.
      The thing with that type of fight is, you either have poor footwork or you're pressing for it.

      Now Hatton was hugging rather than inside fighting, and he has never been an inside fighter. Floyd made mince meat of that, but to be honest, Hatton provided an easy target.

      Now for others, such as maybe the Berto and Ortiz fight, Berto has poor footwork and was tired/hurt.

      Now Pac, if he good, fast feet, and controls range well. If he isn;t hitting you, then it's unlikely you are gonna hit him. Floyd does have fast feet and good footwork, but if he gets close, there is that midrange where Pac is very dangerous. Floyd will have to take shots to get that close, and Pac won't be running in with a telegraphed left hook, and hugging.

      What fights do you think shows Mayweather inside fighting BTW?

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      • brick wall
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        #43
        who needs inside fighting if you can be a great fighter without it

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        • sweetscience18
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          #44
          Originally posted by ElderlyBeater
          The thing with that type of fight is, you either have poor footwork or you're pressing for it.

          Now Hatton was hugging rather than inside fighting, and he has never been an inside fighter. Floyd made mince meat of that, but to be honest, Hatton provided an easy target.

          Now for others, such as maybe the Berto and Ortiz fight, Berto has poor footwork and was tired/hurt.

          Now Pac, if he good, fast feet, and controls range well. If he isn;t hitting you, then it's unlikely you are gonna hit him. Floyd does have fast feet and good footwork, but if he gets close, there is that midrange where Pac is very dangerous. Floyd will have to take shots to get that close, and Pac won't be running in with a telegraphed left hook, and hugging.

          What fights do you think shows Mayweather inside fighting BTW?
          Agreed..i honestly dont think there are any fighters out there would be able to get that close to pac, except one.

          Ill say it again the best way to get inside for a clinche battle is to lead with your dominant hand and fall into your opponent, something floyd is very good at. All im saying is if floyd notices that after he falks into manny, that manny isnt doing much on the inside, than he will most likely adjust to just potshots and clinching..

          Hm well floyd uses his lead right and falls into his opponent alot he doesnt always fight in the clinche because he doesnt need to but in a fight that involves an opponent of so much skill i could see him trying it out..fights that come to the top of my head are hatton and burton.

          im not saying floyd is a clinche fighter just that he is good in the clinche and in a fight of this magnitude look for any weakness to be exploited on either side.

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            #45
            Originally posted by ElderlyBeater
            The thing with that type of fight is, you either have poor footwork or you're pressing for it.

            Now Hatton was hugging rather than inside fighting, and he has never been an inside fighter. Floyd made mince meat of that, but to be honest, Hatton provided an easy target.

            Now for others, such as maybe the Berto and Ortiz fight, Berto has poor footwork and was tired/hurt.

            Now Pac, if he good, fast feet, and controls range well. If he isn;t hitting you, then it's unlikely you are gonna hit him. Floyd does have fast feet and good footwork, but if he gets close, there is that midrange where Pac is very dangerous. Floyd will have to take shots to get that close, and Pac won't be running in with a telegraphed left hook, and hugging.

            What fights do you think shows Mayweather inside fighting BTW?
            May's inside game is as nonexistant as pac. He'd be at an even bigger disadvantage brcausr of his long wingspan. *****s just love to think that the elbow/forearm right hanf combo floyd loves to throw counts as inside fightinh.

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            • waxfondler
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              #46
              pac is vulnerable to inside uppercuts & body work... but like previous posters stated, if he has the footwork to avoid inside fighting, then its a non-issue... floyd isnt an in-fighter anyway... IMO, margs was putting in good inside work on pac. margs loves to put his head down and just pound in close.

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              • BoxingGenius27
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                #47
                Manny's endurance, constant movement, and ability to keep the fight on the outside will never allow him to fight on the inside too long.

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                • jtiger777
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by sweetscience18
                  Alright thanks..any fights come to mind?
                  Just lookin to search for the vid.
                  ive been digging i havent found one its obvious thats not his game, which is okay why cant his fans just admit it instead of telling us to dig deeper with no proof?

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                  • Steak
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                    #49
                    he doesnt really have any of it, when talking about his abilities on the world stage. he needs distance for his punching.


                    but, his other attributes more than make up for it, and there isnt really anyone in boxing right now that could take advantage of that weakness.

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                    • MRBOOMER
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                      #50
                      It sounds good but to catch a man to fight n the inside your feet have to be as fast as his and mayweathers aren't anymore.
                      He just doesn't move as much anymore since the hatton fight really and you have to move and be able to cut off the ring and close that distance and that's not something Floyd does and that's something mannys good at stopping.

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